[JCEccles]

Intelligent design posits there was a master force that designed life.

The drama queens are out.

Let's call this "master force" what it is: i.e, plain old ordinary intelligence. We see evidence of this "master" force designing skyscrapers, space shuttles, dog and cattle breeds, and even bacteria (e coli made to produce human insulin, for example) every day.

In fact this "master force" is even good at whipping up prejudice to protect atheism in the classrooms of America.

[Non-Sequitur]

Let's call this "master force" what it is: i.e, plain old ordinary intelligence.

Well let's really call this "plain old ordinary intelligence" what you really believe it to be. God. Which takes it back to theology and not science.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Let's call this "master force" what it is: i.e, plain old ordinary intelligence. We see evidence of this "master" force designing skyscrapers, space shuttles, dog and cattle breeds, and even bacteria (e coli made to produce human insulin, for example) every day."

That's not the *intelligent designer* that is at issue. Nobody is denying that humans design things. What is at question is the evidence for a designer of the universe and a director of the evolution of life.

Human intelligent designing is not evidence for the alleged intelligent designer of the universe, unless you want to claim humans designed the whole thing.

[ml1954]

The drama queens are out.

Let's call this "master force" what it is: i.e, plain old ordinary intelligence. We see evidence of this "master" force designing skyscrapers, space shuttles, dog and cattle breeds, and even bacteria (e coli made to produce human insulin, for example) every day.

In fact this "master force" is even good at whipping up prejudice to protect atheism in the classrooms of America.

Did you really mean to say this? If so, you've got some issues you need to take up with the "master force".