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Oregon Tests Novel Mileage Tax
Stateline.org ^ | Friday, May 20, 2005 | Eric Kelderman

Posted on 07/06/2006 1:25:43 PM PDT by proudofthesouth

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To: proudofthesouth

Let the fraud begin.


21 posted on 07/06/2006 1:33:33 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: 50sDad
Here in Ohio, motercyclists (with a loud lobbying group) aren't required to have helmets, but my six-year-old bike riding daughter is. What's up with that?

The argument goes that the motorcyclist is an adult and can make informed consent your six-year-old isn't and can't. I don't think it makes any sense either but that's were the logic is.

22 posted on 07/06/2006 1:33:37 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: proudofthesouth

Considering I live in Texas...where driving for an hour each way to work is pretty common...I don't like it.


23 posted on 07/06/2006 1:34:23 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!)
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To: bwteim
Tracking cars' locations ....and speed.
24 posted on 07/06/2006 1:34:49 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: proudofthesouth

This was talked about here in California too....I don't see it happening.

States are losing money because of more efficient cars...well you can't have it both ways.


25 posted on 07/06/2006 1:34:49 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: nikos1121

Given that Oregon is pretty crunchy, how would taxing miles driven be compatible with encouraging conservation of fossil fuels? Are they planning to tax both the gas and the miles driven? If they went with just miles driven how could they attack the SUVs for being wastful? Would there be different rates per mile based on the weight of the vehicle? This is what we do with trucks. Seems like an extremely convoluted solution in search of a problem.


26 posted on 07/06/2006 1:35:48 PM PDT by tigtog
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To: proudofthesouth
The cars also will have Global Positioning Systems (GPS) so drivers will not be charged for driving outside state borders -- the tax is only meant to be applied for use of Oregon roads. Tracking cars' locations also could allow extra fees for traveling in congested traffic areas or during rush hours.

How long will it take to include automatic fines for speeding as well?

27 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:00 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: proudofthesouth

So ... lets see, I can pay 24 cents a gallon, or 1.2 cents per mile, which equates to 20mpg. Sounds like a deal if I am driving my old clunker that gets 6mpg, but would really suck if I am driving a new Hybrid. Well, sounds like an incentive to drive the clunker.

This is social engineering on a massive scale ... and I think even the libs would object to this one. All in all, I would put this on par with taking away the automatic deduction for income taxes, and making all tax bills paid directly to the government once a year. All it would take would be one invoice, and all the libs would be voted out of office forever.

My guess is that this will be tried, and then dropped when the population realizes how invasive this is, and when the libs realize how dangerous this is to their chances of staying involved with Governing.


28 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:11 PM PDT by RainMan
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To: austinaero

Welcome to Oregon. Now put this on your car. Happy traveling!.....


29 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: proudofthesouth

There's nothing 'novel' about a tax.

It's more like 'status quo'.


30 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:30 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: proudofthesouth

But this isn't right! Oregon is not punishing the SUV drivers!

If the SUV guy drives 100 miles and use 10 gallons of gas, let's say, and a guy drives his Honda Civic and uses 3 gallons, the Civic guy has the same tax as the SUV guy. The Honda guy gets his taxes raised.

From a liberal point of view, this does not make sense.


31 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:34 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: austinaero
I was wondering the same thing. Won't this require some type of 'big brother' monitoring system? Good grief, what a bunch of morons.

Perhaps,at first,they'd only do it on Interstates and other major roads.If so,they could easily do it in the same way that they collect tolls in the Northeast...with a transponder that you attach to your windshield that communicates with a receiver on the highway.

Most of them that I've seen require you to go 15 MPH as you pass the receiver,but one I saw (in NJ,DE or MD..can't recall which) allows you to do 55 MPH as you're passing.

32 posted on 07/06/2006 1:36:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: proudofthesouth
It's been coming for a while now.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576912/posts

AND HERE

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"You have to have a revenue-collection system in place to respond to that," says James Whitty, manager of the office of innovative partnerships and alternative funding for the Oregon Department of Transportation.

Whitty and others propose taxing you on how far you drive, not how much gas you use. There are other approaches being considered to supplement the gas tax in years to come, but the so-called mileage tax is gaining attention as the replacement that many say will eventually be needed.

Whitty believes that most cars eventually could be outfitted with a global positioning device and computer to determine miles traveled in a given state - information that would be used to determine the tax bill.

Rest of the story...HERE

And Here

It's the wave of the future.

33 posted on 07/06/2006 1:37:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Red Badger

Yep. How are they going to enforce this? Take your car away? Geeez, then there will be even LESS revenue!

Is there even one brain cell kicking the Oregon legislature?


34 posted on 07/06/2006 1:38:04 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: mpreston

I thing the age group that drives the most is the
middle aged employed sector. I drive more now in my
dotage than I did as a kid.


35 posted on 07/06/2006 1:39:11 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Gay State Conservative
they could easily do it in the same way that they collect tolls in the Northeast...with a transponder that you attach to your windshield that communicates with a receiver on the highway.

Most of them that I've seen require you to go 15 MPH as you pass the receiver,but one I saw (in NJ,DE or MD..can't recall which) allows you to do 55 MPH as you're passing.

The ones in Houston, Texas work at +80 mph.

36 posted on 07/06/2006 1:39:15 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: austinaero

I can't wait till the next election to see how many of these morons get re-elected!..........


37 posted on 07/06/2006 1:39:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They have those in Illinois for the toll roads. The little doo-dad gets pinged at the toll and your 'account' gets debited. You use a credit card to replenish the account in pre-paid amounts.

So, maybe all the roads in Oregon will become tolls then.

Hey, TOLLS FOR TROLLS!!!
(my apologies to those lonely Freepers in Oregon)


39 posted on 07/06/2006 1:40:11 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Right Wing Assault

>>From a liberal point of view, this does not make sense.

Since when do liberals make sense in the first place?


40 posted on 07/06/2006 1:40:23 PM PDT by teacherwoes (To a liberal diversity is finding different people who agree with them)
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