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VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?
Georgia Dawg

Posted on 07/06/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg

Hi all....

FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.

Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.

While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...

Georgia Dawg


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chitchat; vanity
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To: Froufrou
~giggle!~ It's pretty hard to NOT find a Baptist in TX who at least drinks beer!

What's the difference between a Baptist and a Lutheran?

If a Lutheran sees you in the liquor store, he'll probably talk to you.

321 posted on 07/06/2006 4:44:35 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Froufrou
Adultery shall be punished by death.

Where were you when I got back from Vietnam?

322 posted on 07/06/2006 4:48:08 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Pete
If a local community comes to a consensus that they want to observe or not observe blue laws,

Rights are not determined by consensus.

it is not reasonable that they should be forced to bow to the will of vocal minority.

You misplace the force, the force is from those who would violate rights, not by those who defend rights.

Such coercion of the majority applied broadly would lead to chaos and foolishly accomodates the wishes of the squeaky wheel at the expense of the wishes of everyone else.

The confusion is because you seem to see those who assert their rights as coercing those who would violate them by using government force to attain their wishes.

My rights are not determined by the majority or the minority, they belong to me, and are not broker-able by anyone else.

323 posted on 07/06/2006 6:19:59 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

We should have a 3-day waiting period for alcohol sales.

Alcohol kills more people than firearms.

Alcohol is bad....mmmmkay.


324 posted on 07/06/2006 6:24:29 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Froufrou
There are no rights outside the law

Totally incorrect. Laws do not determine nor bestow rights.

325 posted on 07/06/2006 6:24:54 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Pete
Should you be able to move to any community in the country and force them to change how they have chosen to live simply to accomodate your preferences?

That is precisely backwards. They can live any way they want. My asserting my rights without violating theirs is in no way forcing them to my preferences. It is the people who invoke government laws who are forcing their preferences on others.

Precisely backwards.

326 posted on 07/06/2006 6:30:11 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Froufrou

Nanny-stater.


327 posted on 07/06/2006 6:33:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: NinoFan

Blue laws don't automatically turn a Christian belief into a cultural belief.


328 posted on 07/06/2006 6:36:45 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: jackieaxe
But nanny-staters like laws restricting others' freedoms because it makes them more comfortable.

If they want to be comfortable they should just buy their shoes a half-size larger and leave us alone!

329 posted on 07/06/2006 6:42:20 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason; Froufrou
People need to realize that the only tool governments have that private businesses and individuals do not is the power to use deadly force to realize goals.

Any law needs to be examined with this in mind:

Is this law worth killing people over?

If the answer is no, then it needs to go away.

330 posted on 07/06/2006 6:43:42 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: HIDEK6
Men-stealers shall suffer death.

I liked this one myself....

331 posted on 07/06/2006 6:55:39 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Froufrou

If you are going to allow the government impede someone else's freedom, as a conservative, you should have a compelling and logical reason.

Leftists love to pass restrictive laws that don't have any real effect except controlling people. But it makes them feel better, and that's what counts.


What good do these Blue Laws do except make you feel better?


332 posted on 07/06/2006 7:00:53 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Chickensoup

So tell me. What good do blue laws do?


333 posted on 07/06/2006 7:05:10 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: elkfersupper; All

I go with the legal standard of "clear and compelling" reasoning and throw in "logical" and "workable" when it comes to implementing or continuing legal restriction on freedom.

This is a basic tenet of conservatism. Not this hypocritical "well, this law makes little ole me feel warm and fuzzy, so we'll keep it" crap while we simultaneously condemn "feel-good" socialism.

The point, my fellow Freepers, is NOT if a law "inconveniences" YOU personally, it's a problem and if it doesn't, well, then that's okay. No, it's not okay. That's the same kind of short-sighted "for the chillldren" crapola that we get from the Left. It has no place here. We are supposed to have principles. When we use the word FREE, it is not just empty rhetoric.

It's what we are about.


336 posted on 07/06/2006 7:37:48 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

..........and a big AMEN!


337 posted on 07/06/2006 7:39:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Ouderkirk

You, and the idiotic logic you try to force on others, are the prime reason people hate christians.


338 posted on 07/07/2006 4:59:28 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Eaker; linda_22003

I don't know about your church, but mine has 8:00 service. It doesn't matter whether they were coming or going any more than it matters what day of the week they were bombed.

Oops, that's for you, linda! You were asking for the connection, get it? Drinking 'til you're bombed? Wouldn't it be freakin' hysterical is that's where the expression came from?


339 posted on 07/07/2006 5:14:30 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: tpaine
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the right to buy & drink booze on Sunday.

Precisely, because "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

340 posted on 07/07/2006 5:17:28 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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