Posted on 07/06/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
Hi all....
FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.
Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.
While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...
Georgia Dawg
And therein is the REAL reason Blue Laws are seldom repealed. The liquor store owners (and similarly the car dealers) realize that if if the law is changed such that liqour can be sold on Sundays, then eventually they will have to be open on Sundays in order to compete, and yet on an annualy basis they won't make any more money by doing so. So they lobby the relevant government entity HEAVILY and/or spend lots of money on negative advertising to keep the Blue Laws in place.
I think they can actually choose Sunday over Saturday, if they want to. I know we have a Dodge dealership that does this, staying closed on Saturday and open Sunday.
Going one day without drinking isn't the point. The point is that it's my business when I decide to buy alcohol; not the government's or anyone else.
Okay. Sorry to belabor it, but I just couldn't see what parallel was being drawn to Pearl Harbor. (Still don't....) :)
People have a right to buy alcohol on Sundays if they choose. As others have noted, businesses have the right to choose not to sell alcohol on that day if they wish. The right to buy alcohol does not require that anyone sell it to them if they feel they should not. Is that a difficult concept to grasp?
If a local community comes to a consensus that they want to observe or not observe blue laws, it is not reasonable that they should be forced to bow to the will of vocal minority. Such coercion of the majority applied broadly would lead to chaos and foolishly accomodates [sic] the wishes of the squeaky wheel at the expense of the wishes of everyone else.
If a local community comes to a consensus that they want to observe or not observe blue laws (torture everyone named Pete, ostracize every Pete, etc.) it is not reasonable that they should be forced to bow to the will of vocal minority. Such coercion of the majority applied broadly would lead to chaos and foolishly accommodates the wishes of the squeaky wheel mob at the expense of the wishes of everyone else Petes.
Pete didn't harm another person and he is an animate being. Alcohol harmed no one and is an inanimate object. You are arguing to initiate harm/force against a person that has not harmed another. To carry it out is immoral and criminal. Your individual rights end where another person's begin.
So you're saying that Jesus not only indulged in a vice but encouraged it in others (by converting water into wine)?
I think you might be confused, like people who say, "Money is the root of all evil" when the text actually says that, "The love of money is the root of all evil."
Indulging in drink is no vice, but overindulgence certainly is.
I'm trying to remember here, who was it that said, "All things in moderation"?
Some people think Jesus didn't go any farther than Welchade. No, really.
It's just unseemly to be buying beer/liquor at 8 am on a Sunday
...Not if you're packing up for a day trip on the boat :)
It depends. If it is a hot Sunday afternoon and I just drank my last cold beer...it is a lousy law!
You must live somewhere else. Where I live, it's against the law to sell liquor before noon on Sunday, also after one on Friday and after midnight on Saturday, I think is the way it goes. Except for bars, which cannot serve after two a.m.
There are no rights outside the law. I suggest you not test that in TX, for your own welfare.
So you consider buying alchohol on a Sunday to be a civil right, a kin to not being subjected to torture?
How about some perspective. We are not talking about the majority violating the civil rights of the individual.
Should you be able to move to any community in the country and force them to change how they have chosen to live simply to accomodate your preferences?
I hear what you're saying, but that (for me) is when I've always gone to Kroger to get groceries for the week. Nice and convenient to pick up my case of Bud Light for the week at the same time.
Many of these laws are more honored in the breach than in the observance.
Good for you. I love a cold beer for the game, too. And I know that I can legally obtain one after noon on Sunday, should my supply at home be scant.
That makes no sense. When I lived in WA I was a hairdresser and had to take turns working Sundays at the mall shop. By the time I returned to TX they had added the day, too. Business was never as good as on Saturdays.
I know, I had an aunt and uncle combo who were both preachers in a church that taught this nonsense.
The South is peculiar in that way.
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