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1 posted on 07/06/2006 5:39:14 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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This great, another bright shininy object to capture the attention of the moonbat left conspiracy nuts.

The Kos can sell stock options on Leopold's new venture.

2 posted on 07/06/2006 5:43:13 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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But if he did, lawyers observed yesterday, he could make a new defense by blaming it all on Lay . . . who, of course, is no longer around to refute the claim.

Skilling could have blamed it all on Lay whether Lay was alive or not.

But Skilling's strategy has always been to lay the blame at the feet of Andrew Fastow.

Fastow was far and away the worst person in the whole Enron story - but he turned state's evidence and got a maximum of 10 years in prison. And that's a sentence he doesn't have to serve until the whole Enron investigation is over years from now and which will probably be subject to early release.

Had Lay not died yesterday, he would have died in prison, and Skilling may well die in prison himself.

The more one looks at the evidence, it seems that Fastow was the criminal mastermind who thought up the scams, Skilling was the boss who encouraged Fastow to come up with more and better scams, and Lay was the hands-off CEO who had to have known something fishy was going on but who preferred to pursue a policy of see-no-evil-hear-no-evil rather than do his fiduciary duty.

And true to form, Fastow is the one who figured out the best deal for himself.

4 posted on 07/06/2006 6:01:31 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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This is another bullsh*t article in the national press. Yes, Lay's death will delay the process and make it more difficult. However, there is such a claim as "unjust enrichment." Whoever now has control of Ken Lay's estate, got those assets because Kan Lay stole them. And his family and heirs damned well know that.

Let the games begin. And don't believe what you read in the papers.

P.S. Interested in a Freeper in Congress? Keep in touch with me.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "The Lesson of the African Queen"

7 posted on 07/06/2006 6:12:30 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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But legal expert Michael Fee, a former federal prosecutor and now a partner at top Boston law firm Ropes & Gray, says the claim may now be moot.

The problem? Prosecutors would have been looking for judge Sim Lake, who presided over Lay’s conviction in May, to make a simple “order of restitution” at the sentencing hearing in October. That would have forced Lay to pay money back to victims directly.

Now, says Fee, that hearing, and that order, won’t happen.

“He doesn’t get sentenced any more, so the order of restitution cannot be imposed,” said Fee yesterday.

Other lawyers yesterday added that Lay’s early death would further lead to his six convictions being extinguished in the eyes of the law.

It looks like he really did cheat justice.



Someone posted a thread here last night asking how do we know Lay is really dead. That thread got kitty litter all over it.

Two questions:

1) is the death verified?
2) is this proven to be a non induced death
14 posted on 07/06/2006 7:00:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Those defrauded will never see a dime of the money. I speak from personal experience as a fraud victim. Chalk up your loss, learn from it and move on. What they might get is a pittance compared to what will be eaten up in lawyers' fees.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

21 posted on 07/06/2006 7:58:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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My school believes Theory 1. Please don't let your kids go to a Remington College. At least not the one located in North Houston at Greenspoint.


31 posted on 07/07/2006 2:13:58 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Get Well, Barbaro)
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