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Superman eschews longtime patriot act
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | 6/30/06 | Tatiana Siegel

Posted on 06/30/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by Roberts

Nevermind Superman's sexual orientation. Here's another identity-related question that is likely to spark controversy as the Man of Steel soars into theaters nationwide this Fourth of July weekend in Warner Bros. Pictures' "Superman Returns": Is Superman still American?

Ever since artist Joe Shuster and writer Jerry Siegel created the granddaddy of all comic book icons in 1932, Superman has fought valiantly to preserve "truth, justice and the American way." Whether kicking Nazi ass on the radio in the '40s or wrapping himself in the Stars and Stripes on TV during the Cold War or even rescuing the White House's flag as his final feat in "Superman II," the Krypton-born, Smallville-raised Ubermensch always has been steeped in unmistakable U.S. symbolism.

But in the latest film incarnation, scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris sought to downplay Superman's long-standing patriot act. With one brief line uttered by actor Frank Langella, the caped superhero's mission transformed from "truth, justice and the American way" to "truth, justice and all that stuff."

"The world has changed. The world is a different place," Pennsylvania native Harris says. "The truth is he's an alien. He was sent from another planet. He has landed on the planet Earth, and he is here for everybody. He's an international superhero."

In fact, Dougherty and Harris never even considered including "the American way" in their screenplay. After the wunderkind writing duo ("X2: X-Men United") conceived "Superman's" story with director Bryan Singer during a Hawaiian vacation, they penned their first draft together and intentionally omitted what they considered to be a loaded and antiquated expression. That decision stood throughout the 140-day shoot in Australia, where the pair remained on-set to provide revisions and tweaks.

"We were always hesitant to include the term 'American way' because the meaning of that today is somewhat uncertain," Ohio native Dougherty explains. "The ideal hasn't changed. I think when people say 'American way,' they're actually talking about what the 'American way' meant back in the '40s and '50s, which was something more noble and idealistic."

While audiences in Dubuque might bristle at Superman's newfound global agenda, patrons in Dubai likely will find the DC Comics protagonist more palatable. And with the increasing importance of the overseas boxoffice -- as evidenced by summer tentpoles like "The Da Vinci Code" -- foreign sensibilities can no longer be ignored.

"So, you play the movie in a foreign country, and you say, 'What does he stand for? -- truth, justice and the American way.' I think a lot of people's opinions of what the American way means outside of this country are different from what the line actually means (in Superman lore) because they are not the same anymore," Harris says. "And (using that line) would taint the meaning of what he is saying."

But for Superman purists looking for a nod to the big blue Boy Scout's nationalistic loyalties, he is still saving Americans, albeit many with suspiciously Aussie accents. He foils Lex Luthor's nefarious plan to send millions from the nation's heartland to a watery death. And in his most impressive scene, the hero saves the day while a plane hurtles toward a baseball stadium full of fans enjoying America's pastime. Although there is no indication that it is an American baseball game depicted, the scene was one of the few shot on U.S. soil, at Dodger Stadium.

Nevertheless, the long-standing member of the Justice League of America seems to have traded in his allegiance to the flag for an international passport.

"He's here for humanity," Dougherty says.


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To: Lexington Green
He ain't my Superman.

Yeah, this ain't the real Superman. This is Supermetro. Even Bizarro Superman would kick this guy's ass!

201 posted on 07/01/2006 12:37:22 PM PDT by rake (Okinawa!)
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To: rake

Hitlary clinton has bigger testicles than this metosexualfied pc superman.


202 posted on 07/01/2006 12:42:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lazamataz
Well, it's true. Anyone so preoccupied by gay things has clearly got a little bit of a 'swissue'.

Is that why it provoked you to comment? Do you think this version of Superman is "too gay?" By your logi, the question has the same likelihood of being answered correctly as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

SO now, having seen the movie, I can say that this version of Supes is not "gay." Your peristence in bringing it up will, however, call you into question -- but only by your own logic, whatever fuel may be inspiring it (I suspect Old Milwaukee).

I think the gay buzz that has been discussed on this thread has two sources: A) rival studios wanting to dim the show's earnings, and B) gays wanting to claim yet another part of the culture. You've been off the cultural battlefield too long if you don't understand B).

203 posted on 07/01/2006 12:43:03 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Lazamataz
Good Lord, I took the bait again. Sorry Laz. Your sarcasm and my short temper are not a good mix.

Keep up the good fight, brother, and say hi to your sister's girlfriend for me.

204 posted on 07/01/2006 12:45:07 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Puddleglum
By your logi, the question has the same likelihood of being answered correctly as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

Have you?

205 posted on 07/01/2006 12:45:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999 !!!)
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To: All

Viral Promotion for those who don't know, it a way for street level promotion via paid word of mouth.

Thus you PAY someone to come onto FR and then promote the movie by artificially creating word of mouth.

It is akin to when sony pictures was making up positive movie reviewers and their fake positive reviews.

Viral Promotion is very real.


206 posted on 07/01/2006 12:46:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BadAndy
Will download Superman later tonight on Usenet.

Will go see Cars in the theater.

207 posted on 07/01/2006 12:47:30 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Puddleglum
Keep up the good fight, brother, and say hi to your sister's girlfriend for me.

My sister's dead.

Haven't you heard?

208 posted on 07/01/2006 12:49:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999 !!!)
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To: new cruelty
But its one with really super special effects!

And we all know how great Phantom Menace was.

People like you are the reason Lucas destroyed Star Wars beyond any hope (pun intended).

209 posted on 07/01/2006 12:50:38 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: longtermmemmory
Viral Promotion is very real.

I'm trying to promote Win32.Worm.Netsky.

210 posted on 07/01/2006 12:51:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999 !!!)
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To: Roberts
... "truth, justice and all that stuff."

A metrosexual kind of line.

211 posted on 07/01/2006 12:56:25 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: All

For anyone who wants a DRY run through of the blow by blow of the Superman movie,

go here:

It reveals all. The bottom of the page has a short one paragraph synopisis.

No need to spend money, it is all there.


212 posted on 07/01/2006 1:03:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Wow, that must be the invisible link.


213 posted on 07/01/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Here's the trade association for viral marketing...

http://www.vbma.net/


214 posted on 07/01/2006 1:05:23 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/supermanreturns.html

forgot the link

complete movie synopis begining TO THE END.


215 posted on 07/01/2006 1:06:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
It reveals all. The bottom of the page has a short one paragraph synopisis. No need to spend money, it is all there.

Sounds great. I should cancel my Netflix, and stop going to the movies, because now I can just read a paragraph on line. I mean, I COULD watch movies for myself and make up my own mind, but why not let some anonymous crank on the internet decide for me?

216 posted on 07/01/2006 1:07:36 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: A CA Guy

http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/supermanreturns.html

the link to the spoiler.

very dry but a blow by blow.


217 posted on 07/01/2006 1:14:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

You really hate evil Hollywood, huh?


218 posted on 07/01/2006 1:16:38 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I saw it Earlier in the week.

Did not have an American feel at all.
I think they tried to tie too much Christ like things in with Superman as well.

Should have had an American version for America and cut it for global consumption.
I think Americans will be bitter about what they did.


219 posted on 07/01/2006 1:41:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Windsong
People like you are the reason Lucas destroyed Star Wars beyond any hope (pun intended).

May divorce be with you. Always. ;)

220 posted on 07/01/2006 5:51:43 PM PDT by new cruelty
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