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Baby found dead in vehicle. Mother apparently forgot to drop off baby at day care.
grandfolksherald.com ^ | Thu, Jun. 29, 2006 | Lisa Gibson

Posted on 06/29/2006 1:07:30 PM PDT by rawhide

A 5-month-old baby died in a minivan Wednesday after the mother apparently forgot to drop the child off at day care.

The tragedy was discovered about 5:30 p.m. outside the Wonder Years 2 day care. The baby's mother stopped at the day care after work to pick up the child and was told by staff that the baby had not been dropped off. She realized then that the baby had been in her minivan all day.

"The mother had forgotten to drop off the child at day care in the morning," said Curt Kreun, owner of Wonder Years 2. "She actually came in the building to pick up the child and then realized what had happened."

The child was in a car seat in the back of the vehicle, according to Sgt. Jeff Burgess of the Grand Forks Police Department. A Wonder Years 2 staff member made the 911 call, according to Kreun.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandforks.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: baby; daycare; died; forgot; infantdeath; nd; van
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To: kcvl

Very interesting. Why does it always seem the "mothers" who do this all have high-powered jobs? I think it is because they are more concerned with their "job" than their child. Didn't even think about calling the daycare all day to check on her child!


201 posted on 06/29/2006 2:44:17 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: beeler
I think "monster" is a bit harsh, but I agree that no child that young should be in daycare. The mother should at least spend the first year at home with the child, but if she can't afford to and must work then she should leave the child with a relative. OK, sure I'm a man, and "I just wouldn't know" how important it is for a woman to have a career or to be able to afford some of the better things in life, but I am just naive enough to believe that if you're going to bring a child into this world you should be willing to sacrifice some of your lifestyle for that child. At least during the formative years. And if you're not, keep your legs together.

I'm sorry, but stories like this just piss me off!

202 posted on 06/29/2006 2:44:50 PM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
I don't see raving- I see opinions. Just tell me if 'whoops' would cut it in the following scenarios?

Do you really think there are no consequences for the parent here? Do you really think they will just say 'whoops' and go on with their lives? You over-simplification of this is as ridiculous as your proposed punishment of sterilization.

Why do you think that centuries of Western Law allow for accidental death? You would drag this grieving woman into a clinic and forcibly sterilize her? You really would do that?!

You are a sick, sick person.

203 posted on 06/29/2006 2:44:58 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: bwteim

Should so we let out all the murderers and child molesters out of prison? I guess that is what you think we should do since we should never call judge anyone.


204 posted on 06/29/2006 2:45:22 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: GLDNGUN
Let's put it this way - if you were on a jury sitting in judgment of her, and her defense was that she forgot the child due to seat laws, would you find in her favor based on that defense?

Unless there's some reason to believe she did it intentionally, I'd be highly offended by any demagogic prosecutor who'd bring charges against her at all! Like she's not going to suffer enough? Is that supposed to be a deterrent?:

"Gee, I was going to bake my baby. But, I guess I won't if it means prison time."

The only reason they try to prosecute in these cases is to get the DA in the news for "protecting the children". It disgusts me.

205 posted on 06/29/2006 2:45:48 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Okay, I see your point. So when do we do something with this "mother", after the 2nd child is left in a hot car or do we go all the way until maybe the 5th child?


206 posted on 06/29/2006 2:47:06 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: justche
I just don't understand this - How do you buckle her in and forget she's there on the way to work?

I don't get this either. Sounds very fishy.

207 posted on 06/29/2006 2:47:28 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: yellowdoghunter

The conversation has been about the mother's responsibility from the start. You want to talk about the baby's suffering? I hope the baby didn't suffer, but I don't know. I read that the baby probably never woke up, and never knew what happened. I hope that's true. Either way, the baby is dead, and that is a horrible tragedy. And it will happen again. I don't remember a time when this didn't happen occasionally, to some child, somewhere. And it's usually the result of a tragic mistake that anyone might make, under similar circumstances. I'd sure like to think it's impossible for me to make a mistake that could cost someone their life, but I know I'm only human. I won't make this particular mistake, because I'm aware of it, and would take precautions against it. But I'll make other mistakes. Hopefully, they won't result in suffering or death.


208 posted on 06/29/2006 2:48:19 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: GLDNGUN
Then again, I'm not in the habit of driving around with such an amount on a daily basis.

Are you?

Not cash, but I have been responsible for items of great value in my vehicle every work day for 30 years, and I take the responsibility seriously, as would anyone who values her child. The argument that over time an infant becomes routine can only be made by someone who doesn't understand the nature of parenthood.

Where I won't sit in judgment of her, is to smugly suggest that she values money more than her baby.

Based upon the facts presented in the article, and informed with an understanding of the value of the life of an infant and the nature and responsibilities inherent in parenthood, a conclusion that the woman did not place the value in her child that motherhood requires is logical.

Comments concerning children in daycare were general (and generally true) and did not originate form smugness, but rather out of sadness for the outsourced children.

209 posted on 06/29/2006 2:49:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Refute the Drive-By Media. Sí, Se Puede!)
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To: BykrBayb

Yes, my main concern is the child and what it went through.


210 posted on 06/29/2006 2:50:24 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, Jeff, apparently some mothers forget their 5 month old children or else we would not be having these conversations.


211 posted on 06/29/2006 2:51:14 PM PDT by Texagirl4W (Wisdom has 2 parts: 1, having a lot to say and 2, not saying it.)
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To: AlexandriaDuke
Unless there's some reason to believe she did it intentionally, I'd be highly offended by any demagogic prosecutor who'd bring charges against her at all! Like she's not going to suffer enough? Is that supposed to be a deterrent?: "Gee, I was going to bake my baby. But, I guess I won't if it means prison time." The only reason they try to prosecute in these cases is to get the DA in the news for "protecting the children". It disgusts me.

I'll let you duke it out with Mr. & Mrs. Chandler about what her punishment should be, if any. Since they believe the mother places less value on human life than a briefcase of cash, I'm sure they feel that she was criminally negligent.

212 posted on 06/29/2006 2:52:11 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: kcvl
Baby found dead in vehicle. Mother apparently forgot to drop off baby at day care.

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213 posted on 06/29/2006 2:52:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Refute the Drive-By Media. Sí, Se Puede!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Okay, I see your point. So when do we do something with this "mother", after the 2nd child is left in a hot car or do we go all the way until maybe the 5th child?

Oh, at least the 4th.

214 posted on 06/29/2006 2:53:22 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: bwteim
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Exactly.

215 posted on 06/29/2006 2:53:49 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Whatever happened to Cynthia McKinney?)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Well, that is good to know.


216 posted on 06/29/2006 2:54:21 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
My mother ran a residential day care business for 20 years. My wife ran one for ten. My daughter worked in various day care centers for years. ...I'd say that puts you as one of the more qualified people on this thread.

The conscientious parent who "had" to work is the exception. FWIW, I wholeheartedly agree.

Honestly, I think that it's not always material desires that force both parents to work. Mrs. WBill is a stay-at-home-mom and the pressures that she gets from friends, and even family, to go back to work are enormous. The M-i-L wants her in the workplace so that she "Doesn't lose her idenity", whatever that means. Her friends pressure her for various reasons - some are feminist kooks, some don't have kids and know nothing about what they're talking about, and I think that some are just feeling guilty that they don't stay home with their own kids and want to drag my wife down to their level.

Fortunately, my wife knows her own mind and is able to tell them all to kiss off. That's helped the fact that WBill Jr. is likely the most advanced and best looking baby of his entire generation, and perhaps several prior ones as well. :-) I still think that he owes much of his general health, disposition and intelligence to my wife staying home with him.

217 posted on 06/29/2006 2:54:37 PM PDT by wbill
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To: atomicpossum
This thread is a marvel of infallible spectators.

WEll just Da*m!

You managed to say in just 7 words what I've been trying to say in post after post~

I'm feeling I'm so out of step with the crowd in here, I was wondering if I'd inadvertently stumbled into a DU site

218 posted on 06/29/2006 2:55:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: yellowdoghunter; All

If you make your children your top priority, it will most likely destroy your marriage.


The 10 things all parents know about their childless couple friends:

1. They (childless couples) know everything there is to know about raising children.

2. They never shy away from sharing their parenting wisdom with those of us who actually have kids.

3. They cannot understand what the big deal is about raising kids.

4. They cannot understand how parents can be so absent-minded.

5. They think taking care of 2 dogs and a cat is more work than taking care of a single child.

6. They get twice as much sleep as we do.

7. They take off most every weekend.

8. They still have a life.

9. They are as judgemental toward parents as ex-smokers are towards smokers.

10. They don't have even the remotest clue to what being a parent really is.


219 posted on 06/29/2006 2:56:46 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: ShandaLear
We had a case here where that happened to a very respected dentist. The baby died in a carseat while the dad was working. To me it is easy to understand, Young children usually go to sleep in cars, and people go into another world when they work. Publicizing these stories will give parents one more thing to guard against.

There are myrid responsibilities to parenting. Actually, I clicked to see if some local prosecuter is ghoulish enough to want to get in on the publicity. Then there is they man above who will take baby carseats, already expensive monstrosities, and turn them into costly security system add ons.

220 posted on 06/29/2006 2:57:30 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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