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Supreme Court Says Muzzleloaders are Legally Firearms
Al P ^ | 6/28/06 | staff

Posted on 06/29/2006 10:22:18 AM PDT by Redcloak

Supreme Court Says Muzzleloaders are Legally Firearms
Cheyenne- Posted 6/28/06
Associated Press

The ruling comes in an appeal by a convicted felon who says he thought he was allowed to own a black powder rifle. Such rifles are excluded from the federal definition of firearms.

A spokesman for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department says the ruling will come as a blow to some Wyoming residents who have felony convictions in the past but who are now dedicated black powder hunters.

Governor Freudenthal says he would favor changing the state law to allow convicted felons to continue to hunt with black powder guns.

The court ruling released Wednesday upholds the conviction of Frank Alan Harris in a Casper court on a charge of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

According to the court ruling, Harris was previously convicted of aggravated robbery and robbery.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; blackpowder; felons; firearms; ruling; scotus
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1 posted on 06/29/2006 10:22:20 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak

WYOMING Supreme Court, right? not SCOTUS?


2 posted on 06/29/2006 10:23:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Redcloak

This should be interesting.


3 posted on 06/29/2006 10:23:16 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Redcloak
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4 posted on 06/29/2006 10:24:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Redcloak

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5 posted on 06/29/2006 10:25:27 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Redcloak

Well, through out history there have been a lot of people shot with them.


6 posted on 06/29/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (I SHOT DOWN TWA 800 AND FR IS CLOSING IN ON ME)
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To: Redcloak

Some quibble about legal definition? Seems like if it is a weapon and works by fire it is a firearm.


7 posted on 06/29/2006 10:27:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Redcloak

This opens the door for background checks to purchase muzzleloaders.


8 posted on 06/29/2006 10:31:10 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis

Smokeless powder is a passing fad.


9 posted on 06/29/2006 10:33:11 AM PDT by Concho ((I'd rather be hunting.))
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To: Redcloak

Y'know, I'm just as Pro 2A as anyone, but I've always wondered about this.


10 posted on 06/29/2006 10:35:40 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (Are we not men we are De Vos)
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To: flying Elvis
This opens the door for background checks to purchase muzzleloaders.

Darn right it does!

11 posted on 06/29/2006 10:36:39 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Stater's are Ameba's.)
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To: RightWhale
Some quibble about legal definition? Seems like if it is a weapon and works by fire it is a firearm.

I'd say yes, generally, except that apparently the state has a law defining them and specifically excludes black powder muzzle loaders. If that is so, this ruling sounds like capriciousness.

12 posted on 06/29/2006 10:36:42 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Redcloak

It would avoid a lot of hassle if they'd simply amend the law concerning felons and not the laws about firearms. I think many states simply prohibit felons from possessing deadly weapons. Period. That would do it. Next case.


13 posted on 06/29/2006 10:37:10 AM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: Migraine

It would also avoid a lot of hassle if jaywalking wasn't a felony.


14 posted on 06/29/2006 10:41:39 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: beltfed308

Of course, not to recognize it as a firearm, opens the door to banning them altogether.


15 posted on 06/29/2006 10:42:05 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: lepton

Probably. Somewhere there is a definition of water as a 'mineral.' It seems a stretch, but it amounts to having to get a permit from some gov't agency to put in a water well on your own property if you don't outright own subsurface rights. Well, if the law as it stands doesn't stand community standards or common sense it won't last.


16 posted on 06/29/2006 10:47:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Redcloak
You want an "assualt rifle"?

This weapon has killed more people in the United States than any other single weapon:


17 posted on 06/29/2006 10:48:18 AM PDT by Fido969 (The law is an ass.)
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You want an "assualt rifle"?

This weapon has killed more people in the United States than any other single weapon:

And according to federal law, that's not a firearm.

18 posted on 06/29/2006 10:50:31 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Fido969

Back then, all rifles were 'assault rifles'.


19 posted on 06/29/2006 10:51:00 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: VoiceOfBruck

Well, sure, but black powder weapons do not lend themselves to criminal activity.

A claw hammer would probably be a more effective weapon if you were looking to take up a life of mayhem.

If you were looking to 'disarm" criminals, you would have to prohibit kitchen knives, many tools, household chemicals and even automobiles.

Black powder should be exempt because you have to draw the line somewhere.

Anyway, a criminal act should be a crime because it is a criminal act. Robbery, rape, assault and murder are the crimes, whether they are committed with a weapon, brute force or whatever. Making mere possession of firearms illegal just creates new crime and makes new criminals.


20 posted on 06/29/2006 10:55:04 AM PDT by Fido969 (The law is an ass.)
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