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Allen to Vote to Protect Flag Amendment
Voter's Domain ^ | June 26, 2006

Posted on 06/28/2006 3:07:12 PM PDT by foxy_maiden

Allen believes that flag desecration is conduct and not an exercise of speech, and therefore, should be prohibited.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; flagamendment; flagburning; georgeallen; politics
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This seems a patriotic thing to do! Way to go, Allen!
1 posted on 06/28/2006 3:07:14 PM PDT by foxy_maiden
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To: foxy_maiden

Who's taking names on the "no" votes?


2 posted on 06/28/2006 3:10:37 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: foxy_maiden

Didn't this fail by one vote in the Senate *yesterday*?


3 posted on 06/28/2006 3:12:13 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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It sure did.


4 posted on 06/28/2006 3:12:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: foxy_maiden
This seems a patriotic thing to do!

Imprisoning dissenters is not patriotic.

5 posted on 06/28/2006 3:13:19 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: foxy_maiden

It's just moronic.

1) There's no flag desecration problem in this country I can see. In case you don't know, this will do nothing to stop it in Pakistan or Iran.

2) It's going to cause more flag descration here than you could possibly imagine - as well as contributing to clogging up the legal system with people that have burned 49 star or 12 stripe flags, etc.


6 posted on 06/28/2006 3:18:04 PM PDT by Strategerist
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The way I see it burning our flag just makes it easier to spot the idiots.


7 posted on 06/28/2006 3:19:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: foxy_maiden

Dopey notion.

I liked his national concealed carry bill better. This is just silly, and cuts against all principles of free expression.

Out flag can handle the occasional insult.


8 posted on 06/28/2006 3:21:03 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: ThinkDifferent
But imprisoning fire starting vandals is patriotic.

And the fact that no state is allowed to outlaw this dangerous practice (when it comes to just the flag) is beyond stupid.

Setting fire to a koran on a college campus is vandalism and will get you arrested, yet setting fire to an American flag under the same circumstance is Constitutionally protected free speech. So sayeth the black robes tyrants. It's utter b.s. It's indefensiveable that vandalism is illegal, except when it comes to our flag.

Let me guess, the U.S. Constitution states that burning an American flag is your constitutional right, just before it states your constitutional right to sodomy?

9 posted on 06/28/2006 3:22:37 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: ThinkDifferent

At what point does it go from conduct to freedom of speech?


10 posted on 06/28/2006 3:25:28 PM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: foxy_maiden

Allen-Rice in '08

Or

Allen-Coleman in '08


Either way would be good.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 3:27:44 PM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: foxy_maiden

Well I have an idea that one of our senators should purpose, if they have the guts to do so:

"If your so upset the way the country is running, and you don't like the government, then lets burn the senators and represenatives instead and keep Old Glory flying high."


12 posted on 06/28/2006 3:30:28 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Strategerist
Re 6: Ah, but you are ignoring the flood of flag burnings inundating the fire of national pride. Why, there were a whole 3 such incidents in the U.S.A. in 2004 and it rose to 4 in 2005. If we imagine one event per state, this means that 46 states were left out of flag burnings in 2005 alone.

You can easily see that at this rate, there will soon be a flag burning on every patio and street corner from coast to coast.

China produces 90% of the American flags sold here, so the defeat of the amendment by the "strict constructionist" faction forces me to divest my stock in Chinese flag-manufacturing firms. A pity.

13 posted on 06/28/2006 3:34:30 PM PDT by thomaswest (One man's clarity is another man's misinterpretation.)
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There's no flag desecration problem in this country I can see.

Probably because the secular liberal media don't want you to see that it actually happens from time to time in this country.

14 posted on 06/28/2006 3:34:51 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: foxy_maiden

Meanwhile, a thousand illegal aliens are making their way across our deserts.

If folks want to live in the European Union with their telephone book sized constitution, it's right across the pond. Otherwise, let's try not to fill it up with useless crud, or do you want some court someday to decide that the United Nations flag is also protected as well, based upon this amendment.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 3:35:09 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: foxy_maiden
This seems a patriotic thing to do! Way to go, Allen!

It's patriotic to despise flag burners. It's unpatriotic to deny them the right to free speech. BTW, I don't recall seeing many Freepers complaining during the Terri Schiavo protests....when US flags were defaced.

16 posted on 06/28/2006 3:42:04 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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BTW, I don't recall seeing many Freepers complaining during the Terri Schiavo protests....when US flags were defaced.

That would have made for interesting comedy. Burn the flag and then complain about it.

17 posted on 06/28/2006 3:47:51 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And, (prepare to be horrified) I couldn't possibly care less if somebody somewhere burns a American flag they've purchased and that they own, in an area where public burning isn't prohibited, or on their own property. I'd prefer that they didn't - that's why I'm against the amendment, because nothing will do more to cause flag burnings in this country than it being prohibited.


18 posted on 06/28/2006 3:53:46 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Diplomat

Actually, people have set a koran on fire at my campus and they weren't arrested. They actually did it in the plains also. It's also freedom of speech


19 posted on 06/28/2006 4:16:55 PM PDT by Faceplant_Illegals
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>> It's patriotic to despise flag burners. It's unpatriotic to deny them the right to free speech. <<

Yeah, how dare we deny them the right to their "free speech". Gosh darn it, next thing you know we'll be outlawing the "right" of people to scream "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech, ya know.

Funny how you can't stand outside a synagogue and calmly set fire to an Isreali flag and a couple of torahs. That's the same kind of "speech" as buring a U.S. flag except THOSE guys get charged and set to prison.

20 posted on 06/28/2006 9:40:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Judy Baar is Too-Pinka! Vote Stufflebeam!)
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