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Russia 'to kill Iraq kidnappers'
BBC ^ | June 28, 2006 | BBC

Posted on 06/28/2006 8:53:16 AM PDT by sergey1973

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers of four Russian diplomats taken hostage in Iraq.

The head of Russia's security services immediately pledged to see Putin's order carried out.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiterrorism; chechnya; findanddestroy; fsb; gwot; iraq; islam; jihad; middleeast; muslims; putin; religionofpeace; rop; russia; securityservices; specialforces; terror; terrorism; trop; waronterror; wot
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To: sergey1973
Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers


21 posted on 06/28/2006 9:09:37 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: newcthem
"Does it matter.........still sends the same message.....one that even animals can understand."
Au contraire. The message bounces. Were it to send the message, both in Iraq, in Chechnya, and in Afghanistan everything now would have been peace and quiet. To send a message that would sink, qualitatively different levels of violence would have to be applied. Soviet Afghanistan excursion killed off about 2 million - 8% of the total population there. But what kind of the message [if any] did sink?
22 posted on 06/28/2006 9:12:29 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: sergey1973
As I asked on another Putin seeking revenge thread, what were unprotected Russian diplomats doing in this civil war quagmire savaged land in the first place? Saddam is in jail. Our media has warned the whole earth what a mess we have created in Iraq.

Now we have been hearing that JFKerry for president line of the international 'peace, peace, peace' with the insurgents talks being promoted by the global media gods, so I am curious about the timing and what is really on the agenda?

Putin is hosting the G-8 Summit soon and he has said it is to be about 'energy security'. So were these diplomats killed near any of Iraq's oil production centers? Only partial sarcasm.
23 posted on 06/28/2006 9:12:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: The South Texan

" Can you imagine the media orgasm that would occur if Bush used that language?"

"Media orgasm" is priceless ! The phrase cracked me up -:))))

Now, just imagine if Putin stopped aiding Iran and other psycho regimes and realized that undermining the United States in the long term is undermining Russian security too.

Using FSB thugs to hunt down Jihadist thugs (and other real thugs) instead of arresting human rights activists and scientists is the only proper use of FSB.

Again, I am probably aiming too far, but who knows ? -:)))


24 posted on 06/28/2006 9:13:40 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: The South Texan

" Can you imagine the media orgasm that would occur if Bush used that language?"

"Media orgasm" is priceless ! The phrase cracked me up -:))))

Now, just imagine if Putin stopped aiding Iran and other psycho regimes and realized that undermining the United States in the long term is undermining Russian security too.

Using FSB thugs to hunt down Jihadist thugs (and other real thugs) instead of arresting human rights activists and scientists is the only proper use of FSB.

Again, I am probably aiming too far, but who knows ? -:)))


25 posted on 06/28/2006 9:13:51 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973
Count Vlad Putin vs The Jihadi pigs


26 posted on 06/28/2006 9:17:07 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: GSlob

Even OJ can't find the "real killers".


27 posted on 06/28/2006 9:18:40 AM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: Just mythoughts

I'm not too good in conspiracy theories. I obviously have no idea what Russian Diplomats were doing there. Maybe collecting intelligence, maybe something else ?

The bottom line is they were grizly murdered by Islamic thugs as were 2 US soldiers before them. All I want is to have these Islamist monsters being hunt down and dealt with appropriately, and I think using FSB for this is the appropriate use of FSB.


28 posted on 06/28/2006 9:20:41 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

I understand their desire for a response, and making a noise could be helpful if only to call attention to the unacceptability of insurgents' and terrorists' actions. But how about providing solid help to the peacekeeping efforts? Not to mention the diplomatic efforts to bring about reform in the region.


29 posted on 06/28/2006 9:21:44 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: sergey1973

The Russians don't screw around. They did exactly this when one of their agents got killed in Lebanon back in the 70s. That was the end of terrorists messing with them until these Iraqi bozos forgot the Russian rules--or never knew them.

I wish we played the same way--but we have to make nice and talk about 'bringing them to justice'


30 posted on 06/28/2006 9:23:03 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: NutCrackerBoy

"I understand their desire for a response, and making a noise could be helpful if only to call attention to the unacceptability of insurgents' and terrorists' actions. But how about providing solid help to the peacekeeping efforts? Not to mention the diplomatic efforts to bring about reform in the region."

Well--I doubt that Putin will become partner with US on this one. However, if he at least could help in hunting the insurgents, that would be a big help.


31 posted on 06/28/2006 9:24:14 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

Time will tell if there is a conspiracy or not. After all these years of Russia taking the insurgents/Saddam's side in this land of flowing oil, and now out of nowhere there appears an opening for their fire power seems out of the ordinary.

I do not take kindly to having a Saddam backing finger of accusation coming out of Russia for US making Iraq a dangerous place.


32 posted on 06/28/2006 9:26:06 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: sergey1973
From Russia with Love!
33 posted on 06/28/2006 9:29:35 AM PDT by cartan
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To: sergey1973

I remember the famous story attributed to former CIA head William Casey. Hezbollah kidnapped a couple of Russia diplomats in Beruit around 1982. The KGB snatched a couple of cousins of the (suspected) kidnappers, killed them and left their corpses with their penises sewed in their mouths. The Russian ('cusa me, Soviet) diplomats quickly materialized, unharmed.

Casey's comment: The KGB speaks Hezbollah's language.


34 posted on 06/28/2006 9:30:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: sergey1973
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers of four Russian diplomats taken hostage in Iraq.

The head of Russia's security services immediately pledged to see Putin's order carried out.

Did the UN approve this plan?

Will the axis of whiners start whining?

35 posted on 06/28/2006 9:34:32 AM PDT by RJL
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To: DannyTN
But they need to work with us and the Iraqis and not cause a PR disaster that we get blamed for.

If they are smart they will do it clandestine and do not tell anyone. And it would not be a PR disaster, this will have beneficial impact.

36 posted on 06/28/2006 9:38:01 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Just mythoughts
As I asked on another Putin seeking revenge thread, what were unprotected Russian diplomats doing in this civil war quagmire savaged land in the first place?

Iraqi state exists, at least officially and has diplomatic ties in form of embassies.

37 posted on 06/28/2006 9:40:34 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: sergey1973

I wonder if Putin wants to kiss their tummys first...


38 posted on 06/28/2006 9:44:05 AM PDT by Element187
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To: sergey1973
I obviously have no idea what Russian Diplomats were doing there.

There are still foreign embassies in Baghdad. Should they be closed? Should Iraqi government have diplomatic status and recognition in the world?

39 posted on 06/28/2006 9:47:12 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: sergey1973
Maybe our troops could pay protection money to Russia. Any terrorist kills an American, Vlad sends Luca Brasi.


40 posted on 06/28/2006 9:48:49 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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