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India - Navy's spies catch Chinese subs
Times of India ^ | June 28, 2006 | Rajat Pandit

Posted on 06/28/2006 12:06:24 AM PDT by HAL9000

NEW DELHI: Keeping as it does a watchful eye on the rapidly-modernising Chinese Navy, the Indian Navy has detected, tracked and photographed three spanking new Chinese submarines in the Mediterranean region.

This is the second such instance of remarkable long-range maritime snooping by the Navy this year. Its TU-142M and IL-38 maritime surveillance aircraft had "spooked" a new Chinese destroyer off Yemen's Socotra Island, almost 2,300-km away from the Indian mainland, as was reported by TOI in February.

This time, four of its warships — destroyer INS Mysore, guided missile frigates INS Brahmaputra and INS Betwa and tanker INS Aditya — came across the three submarines being transported on board two carrier "mother" ships transversing through the Suez Canal and Red Sea earlier this month.

"These three Kilo-class submarines, armed with the latest Klub-S cruise missiles, are the last batch of the eight contracted by China from Russia in a $2-billion deal in 2002," said a top source.

"The helicopters aboard our warships clicked their photographs with remarkable clarity. The first five submarines were delivered by the end of 2005.

China, incidentally, had also procured four Kilo-class submarines from Russia in the mid-1990s," he added.

As part of India's policy of maritime diplomacy, the four western fleet warships are on an overseas deployment mission during which they will travel to Alexandria (Egypt), Haifa (Israel), Athens (Greece), Izmir (Turkey) and Tripoli (Libya).



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; india; kiloclass; maritime; submarine; submarines
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1 posted on 06/28/2006 12:06:27 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: managusta
I believe you mentioned these subs yesterday.

By the way, the sub that sank yesterday was decommissioned.

2 posted on 06/28/2006 12:09:06 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Thanks for the post HAL9000.


3 posted on 06/28/2006 12:12:43 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; ...
MI..ping

Kilos
4 posted on 06/28/2006 12:19:31 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Doohickey

Active ping.........


5 posted on 06/28/2006 12:21:08 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: HAL9000
"Its TU-142M and IL-38 maritime surveillance aircraft had "spooked" a new Chinese destroyer off Yemen's Socotra Island,"

Kinda nice of GW to give them the coordinates of where to look.

yitbos

6 posted on 06/28/2006 12:53:50 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: CarrotAndStick; Gengis Khan; Srirangan; sukhoi-30mki

ping


7 posted on 06/28/2006 1:31:28 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Jeff Head; TigerLikesRooster; Tailgunner Joe; DTogo

ping


8 posted on 06/28/2006 1:31:54 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: HAL9000

Are these the subs that are very quiet. So quiet they sound like the batteries in a flashlight?


9 posted on 06/28/2006 1:39:39 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: HAL9000

The stuff of Patrick Robinson novels. The Kilos are super quiet deisels and being sold like hot cakes by the Ruskies.


10 posted on 06/28/2006 3:49:38 AM PDT by llevrok (The next "greatest generation" is now.)
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To: HAL9000

Were they sent there to support their buddies, Iran? Not a wise move China!


11 posted on 06/28/2006 5:27:44 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: AmericaUnite

Very quiet,but having very low underwater endurance of just around 24-30 hours.That's changing with the introduction of AIP technology.Modern Russian D/Es could go as much as 10 days while the latest German boats can do 20+ days.


12 posted on 06/28/2006 5:30:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: bruinbirdman

Actually,it would have been very easy to pick up subs being transported via carrier vessels-you don't need a whole lot of intelligence for that.Besides,India probably has far greaterr intelligence assets in Russian shipbuilding facilities than American ones given their commercial ties & also the fact India,along with China is the largest export user of the Kilo class.


13 posted on 06/28/2006 5:30:50 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: AmericaUnite

Never fear...the USS supersub Jimmy Carter is on duty and will detect any of these intruders.

I am proud of my grandson who serves aboard the Jimmy Carter!


14 posted on 06/28/2006 5:36:48 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: HAL9000

India seems to be a better and better ally lately. Nice counter weight to China in the region and becoming more and more Democratic as time passes.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 6:03:18 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

India has been democratic for all but 19 months of it's 59 year history.


16 posted on 06/28/2006 7:45:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: HAL9000

Yemen is not in the Med


17 posted on 06/28/2006 7:47:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AmericaUnite

Quiet as flashlight batteries with propellers underwater.


18 posted on 06/28/2006 7:48:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Yemen is mentioned when talking about a Chinese destroyer,not these subs.


19 posted on 06/28/2006 7:49:48 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: AppyPappy
Yemen is not in the Med

Yes - but I understand the article correctly, the Yemen sighting was a separate incident in February.

20 posted on 06/28/2006 8:23:01 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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