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Patriotism and the Press
New York Times ^ | 06/28/06 | Editorial Board

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:24:31 PM PDT by airedale

Over the last year, The New York Times has twice published reports about secret antiterrorism programs being run by the Bush administration. Both times, critics have claimed that the paper was being unpatriotic or even aiding the terrorists. Some have even suggested that it should be indicted under the Espionage Act. There have been a handful of times in American history when the government has indeed tried to prosecute journalists for publishing things it preferred to keep quiet. None of them turned out well — from the Sedition Act of 1798 to the time when the government tried to enjoin The Times and The Washington Post from publishing the Pentagon Papers.

As most of our readers know, there is a large wall between the news and opinion operations of this paper, and we were not part of the news side's debates about whether to publish the latest story under contention — a report about how the government tracks international financial transfers through a banking consortium known as Swift in an effort to pinpoint terrorists. Bill Keller, the executive editor, spoke for the newsroom very clearly. SNIP.

The Swift story bears no resemblance to security breaches, like disclosure of troop locations, that would clearly compromise the immediate safety of specific individuals. Terrorist groups would have had to be fairly credulous not to suspect that they would be subject to scrutiny if they moved money around through international wire transfers. In fact, a United Nations group set up to monitor Al Qaeda and the Taliban after Sept. 11 recommended in 2002 that other countries should follow the United States' lead in monitoring suspicious transactions handled by Swift. The report is public and available on the United Nations Web site.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: enemedia; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; leaks; nytimes; swift; swiftleak; terrorism
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You have to read the entire piece. What a crock. IMO anyone who believes that there is any effective wall between the editorial pages and the news pages beyond one made of swiss cheese at the NY Times will be willing to buy a bridge in Brooklyn. Second, if there really is a wall shouldn’t the news side of the house be defending the decision not the editorial page editors who if there is really a wall have nothing to do with the article? Perhaps the public editor should be the one writing the justification or perhaps Pinch himself.

They also don't seem to understand what the decision in the Pentagon Papers actually said. It was a prior restraint case. The court plainly said that prosecution after the fact was an option. The way they brought it up is clearly a veiled threat to the administration by the NY Times.

1 posted on 06/27/2006 11:24:34 PM PDT by airedale
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To: airedale
To hell with them sum bitches!

And you can quote me on that.
2 posted on 06/27/2006 11:28:43 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: airedale
They're trying to justify treason with the cloak of free speech. The New York Times is lucky America does not have an Official Secrets Act. If it did, it would be shut down today and no one would miss them.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

3 posted on 06/27/2006 11:30:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: airedale

Wow, the Times must really be feeling the heat. Reminds me of Dan Rather a few days after the ANG story aired, protesting his righteousness, wrapping himself in the first amendment, etc. But just like Rather, these chumps are going down. Let's keep the pressure on!!!


4 posted on 06/27/2006 11:31:33 PM PDT by inkling
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To: airedale

Hey NYT: FOAD. You released OPERATIONAL DETAILS of a CLASSIFIED OPERATION. That is EXACTLY the same as releasing information about troop movements. There was no valid First Amendment grounds such as corruption, illegality, etc. You simply released OPERATIONAL DETAILS because you HATE GW Bush. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF TRAITORS WHO SHOULD BE TRIED, CONVICTED, and JAILED. (If this was a declared was, you should by tried, convicted, and SHOT.)


5 posted on 06/27/2006 11:32:15 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

declared was = declared war PIMF


6 posted on 06/27/2006 11:32:34 PM PDT by piytar
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To: airedale

They can't deny they did it so they try to justify it. They should be prosecuted to the max for disclosing classified information and let the courts decide.


7 posted on 06/27/2006 11:44:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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I want them closed, out of business....more pressure for a prosecution may send their already troubled stock spiraling down. They must be eliminated.


8 posted on 06/27/2006 11:55:48 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: airedale

"As most of our readers know, there is a large wall between the news and opinion operations of this paper"


This is a desperate attempt to assimilate their readers into a single entity in a bid to retain readers and at the same time use them as human shields.


9 posted on 06/27/2006 11:56:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: airedale
The Swift story bears no resemblance to security breaches, like disclosure of troop locations, that would clearly compromise the immediate safety of specific individuals.

These f'in scumbags have some f'in nerve. So, what the NYT has done isn't the same as disclosing troop locations because they don't "clearly" put "specific" individuals in danger "immediately"??? They're actually trying to argue that, just because you can't definitively point to the exact individual who is being harmed at this very minute, what they're doing is okay. I'm astounded that even the despicable vermin at the NYT would try to use that argument.
10 posted on 06/27/2006 11:58:16 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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11 posted on 06/28/2006 12:29:06 AM PDT by GeorgeBerryman
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"There have been a handful of times in American history when the government has indeed tried to prosecute journalists for publishing things it preferred to keep quiet. None of them turned out well — from the Sedition Act of 1798 to the time when the government tried to enjoin The Times and The Washington Post from publishing the Pentagon Papers. "



guess what, the general public has gotten a hell of alot smarter since then, and they see this treasonist paper for exactly what it is


12 posted on 06/28/2006 1:54:58 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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"(If this was a declared was, you should by tried, convicted, and SHOT.)"




I assume you meant to say a 'delcared war'?


well it is, and was clearly done so.... so they ARE traitors


13 posted on 06/28/2006 1:57:57 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

adding material to list


14 posted on 06/28/2006 1:59:16 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: airedale

The NYT sounds like Natalie Mains. Same tune different "lady."


15 posted on 06/28/2006 1:59:46 AM PDT by madison10
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To: airedale
Patriotism and the Press..

have apparently never met.

L

16 posted on 06/28/2006 2:02:14 AM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: airedale

TRAITORS!


17 posted on 06/28/2006 2:02:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: airedale

Well aint that just Special the UN recomends it so the Slimes figure to take the heat off themselves by pushing it in the UN's direction of a recomendation...

Freakin Traitor's wriggle like Worms on a Hook

Journalist's Go Hang Yourself !


18 posted on 06/28/2006 2:17:32 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: airedale
You have to read the entire piece.
No, I don't. I'm not even gonna give 'em a hit on the page.
19 posted on 06/28/2006 2:58:54 AM PDT by philman_36
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IMO they've gone beyond the protections of the 1st Amnedment.
You're able condemn the government and not face reprisals...as in the King can't have you beheaded or imprisoned simply for telling him that you think the seige should end.
It isn't supposed to cover printing classified data for the world to see...as in lighting a lantern in the tower to notify the beseigers that you've left them fresh supplies outside the gate with a note about the next morning raid because you think the King should give up and end the seige.
20 posted on 06/28/2006 3:16:39 AM PDT by philman_36
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