Posted on 06/27/2006 8:51:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
BERLIN - A German businessman has founded an airline dedicated to smokers.Smintair, or "Smokers' International Airways," aims to cater for smoking passengers, particularly from Asia, who feel they have been squeezed out of the market.
Its first aircraft are due to take off in October on a route between Dusseldorf and Tokyo and are expected to serve mainly Japanese businessmen.
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"It disturbs me that I pay a lot of money for a ticket only to be told what I can and cannot do," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
But as a non-smoker, who goes out of his way to walk way around smokers and who thinks kissing a smoker is like kissing a living corpse, I find this little more than an amusing tib-bit. But I remember what my clothes smell like after a night at a nightclub or a bar, and I can imagine what it be like after a long flight.
But I wouldn't deny those who wish to smoke or fly on a flight for smokers the pleasure.
Perhaps this'll catch on and someday you'll get the pleasure yourself. Who knows what the future will bring!
I most certainly do understand, and I will vote with my wallet and not fly on it.
Never having been on those flights, I was only speculating - but if things work out then great, I agree, people ought to be able to have a choice.
Having said that, I suspect political correctness would doom such a plan here in the US, despite our high value for 'freedom' and 'choice'.
The best Nanny State ping I've made in quite a while.
But it didn't take long for the ninny nannies to come out of the woodwork.
Why shouldn't there be an airline for smokers? Just like there should be bars and restaurants for them as well.
As a smoker, I am so glad that I do not spend all my time sniffing other people. As I understand it, people who sniff are always finding "bad smells" all around them.
I find that rather sad....
Thanks anti-liberal for your kind comments. People like you are getting rather rare.
The more frequently the air is exchanged, the lower the cabin humidity gets. There is almost no moisture in the atmosphere at the cruising altitudes of jets. The moisture comes from inside the plane.
It's not free. The more frequently the air is exchanged the lower the fuel economy. Why should I have to pay a higher ticket price to subsidize someonelse's smoking?
I think that when someone does manage to quit smoking they suddenly notice the smell of it more, they become aware of the odor associated with smoking, whereas someone who smokes regularly wouldn't notice the presence or absence of the distinct smell in a room, for example.
I actually suspect that these senses - of smell and of taste - might be supressed by smoking.
Keep in mind that I'm not being judgmental - though I suspect my tendency to be objectively observant may be taken as such, I apologise if it does.
In any case, if smoking brings you pleasure, then by all means, take your pleasure as you see fit!
:^)
Can you explain the physics involved with this statement? Inquiring minds would love to learn how you arrived at this conclusion. Some of us are pilots and know better.
2)Why should I have to pay a higher ticket price to subsidize someonelse's smoking?
Question: After smokers were no longer allowed to smoke on American Airlines, which of the two happened?
a) Your airplane ticket price decreased.
b) Your airplane ticket price increased.
In other words, I am calling you a liar.
If the cost burden proves to be negligible, and all other things are equal, would you object to smokers having a choice of taking a flight that allows them to smoke, while nonsmokers can continue to take nonsmoking flights, as before?
I myself am a nonsmoker, but I feel that if people choose to smoke, pierce, mutilate, tattoo or otherwise damage their bodies, they should be free to do so, and if smoking flights have no impact on me or those I care about, then why not?
My Freeper friend, I fully understood what you were saying and that is why I complimented you for it.
Today, you are someone that is rather rare.
And the more foul the air becomes with airborne diseases.
Why should anyone want to fly on a flying infectious disease incubator?
recycled smokers air? no thanks
It shouldn't make a huge difference, but to refresh the air when your airplane is in a lower atmospheric pressure would require work to increase the pressure of the air on the inlet side. The second law of thermodynamics applies here (as well as a simplified understanding of entropy: molecules won't crowd together inside of an aircraft when they have a lot more room from each other in the atmosphere unless work is applied).
The air that circulates in the cabin comes from the bleed air generated by the engines. The more air bled off from the engine, the less air sent outside the core of the engine. This decreased the bypass ratio of the engine and decreases thrust available per unit of fuel burned.
a) Your airplane ticket price decreased.
b) Your airplane ticket price increased.
The real price of air travel has decreased since deregulation started in the late 1970's.
Non-smokers would soon turn blue, but that is another subject. LOL
Non-smokers have an outstanding ability of failing to understand a rather simple fact: Smokers breath the exact same air as they do!
Good. That way we don't have to listen to you complain.
And how big of a difference would there be in using a more robust filtration system, and perhaps recycling the air just as much as on a regular nonsmoking flight?
Seems to me there might be an exaggeration of the problem in an effort to justify opposition to a idea which, very likely, will have absolutely no impact upon their lives whatsoever.
But that's my observation and 2 cents, I suppose.
...and if we use airbus-380, we can use 2nd level for shooting range...;-)
This is no less than brilliant!
Capitlaism says "find a need and fill it."
Back when I was a smoker I would have paid a premium to be able to smoke on a 10+ hour flight. Or a 1+ hour flight.
an airline dedicated to smokers
did you NOT understand?
He's just another pushy liberal who thinks everyone must conform to his tastes and lifestyle. He also doesn't seem to understand the marketplace.
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