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Senate race flashes over flag-burning ban [Allen and Webb]
AP/dailypress ^ | June 27 2006 | BOB LEWIS

Posted on 06/27/2006 6:33:29 PM PDT by ncountylee

RICHMOND, Va. -- Republican Sen. George Allen attacked Democrat James Webb for opposing a constitutional flag-burning ban and Webb fired back Tuesday, calling Allen a coward who sat out the Vietnam War "playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada."

In a searing press statement, a senior adviser to Webb, a decorated Vietnam veteran, went to extraordinary lengths to question Allen's fortitude, even repeatedly using the middle name the senator detests and never uses, Felix.

"While Jim Webb and others of George Felix Allen Jr.'s generation were fighting for our freedoms and for our symbols of freedom in Vietnam, George Felix Allen Jr. was playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada," said Webb strategist Steve Jarding.

Allen adviser Dick Wadhams called Jarding's comments pathetic and said they raise questions about Webb's fitness for office.

"They're saying we questioned (Webb's) patriotism, and that's a lie," Wadhams said. "We just raised a legitimate question about whether he supports a flag amendment or not. How is that questioning his patriotism?"

And besides, Allen's name does not include the suffix Jr., a campaign aide added.

The rhetorical crossfire began after an Allen news release noted Webb's opposition to a proposed constitutional amendment that would allow Congress to ban desecration of the U.S. flag. Allen, who is seeking a second term even as he explores a 2008 presidential bid, supports the measure, which the Senate rejected in a 66-34 roll call vote Tuesday evening.

In Allen's release, Wadhams said Webb's opposition shows Webb is "beholden to liberal Washington senators" John Kerry and Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts and Charles Schumer of New York, all Democrats who oppose the flag-burning ban.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen2006; congress; dogandponyshow; election2006; electioncongress; flagburning; georgeallen; jameswebb; panderclause; virginia
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To: kabar

thanks for giving the bio.


61 posted on 06/28/2006 5:15:32 AM PDT by moonman (`)
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To: ncountylee
Ahhhhhhh ! This will give Senator Allen a much needed view of the nasty little Democrats which will help to prepare Allen for 2008.

These Republicans have been told time and time again they are going to have to get tough.

No better time than the present! ;)
62 posted on 06/28/2006 5:19:51 AM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Corin Stormhands

With a lottery number of 229 I wonder if he would have been called? Does anyone know of a web site that lists the draft lottery numbers with their corresponding birth dates and what numbers were called up on which year?


63 posted on 06/28/2006 5:31:55 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Miss Marple
Now, an interesting thing will be how many of this group are Virginia voters and identify with Webb...

FWIW, it's my heritage on my mother's side. But there's no way Webb will get my vote.

Just MHO, but I don't think it will have that big of an impact. We're Virginians, not Scots-Irish-Americans.

We were Virginians before we were Americans. We were Virginians more than we were Confederates.

64 posted on 06/28/2006 6:04:24 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: napscoordinator
Man if he was running as a Republican we would be loving this guy.

Really? How many anti-war, anti-Bush, pro-abortion, pro-flag burning Republicans have you supported lately?

65 posted on 06/28/2006 6:06:51 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Really? How many anti-war, anti-Bush, pro-abortion, pro-flag burning Republicans have you supported lately?


None, but he would not be anti anything if he was running for Republican. He is a Republican. He wants to be Senator. Maybe once he is in the seat, he will vote as a Republican. Did you ever think of that? We certainly have Republicans who do that so why not democrats?


66 posted on 06/28/2006 6:17:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I don't think that is necessarily so...

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned how much he reminded the poster of McCain...and I find maybe 1-2 freepers that can even tolerate McCain...

I have seen this guy debate....I would NOT like him if he was running as a Rep...especially against Allen.

I guess I must be in a minority, in that, I DON'T feel it is necessary for a candidate for public office HAS to have served in the military to be qualified..


67 posted on 06/28/2006 6:22:59 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: napscoordinator

You just "damned" this guy with you praise, when you said IF he were running as a Republican, he wouldn't be ANTI anything...

IOW...he doesn't have core values...his values are based on the party he is running in???

Bah!


68 posted on 06/28/2006 6:25:38 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Mo1

Thank you, also!!


69 posted on 06/28/2006 6:26:12 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: napscoordinator
Maybe once he is in the seat, he will vote as a Republican. Did you ever think of that?

Maybe if he hadn't sold his soul to Kerry, Schmucky, and Dean to get the nomination.

70 posted on 06/28/2006 6:26:32 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Txsleuth

IOW...he doesn't have core values...his values are based on the party he is running in???



I think that could be true. I believe that many people do that in congress. I would be surprised if you wrote me back and said that I was wrong about that. I am not saying that it is right. I am just saying it happens.


71 posted on 06/28/2006 6:32:06 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Unfortunately, I think you are right...however, it isn't something to be proud of...and when the person is personally unlikeable, like John McCain....

I think it will play heavily against them, in the Republican Party anyway.

AND, from the times I have seen Webb on TV...he is an arrogant SOB..and not likeable AT ALL.


72 posted on 06/28/2006 6:35:01 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: napscoordinator; Corin Stormhands

But why risk it when we already have a candidate who has core values and sticks with them? Allen has shown me that he has a core set of beliefs that I agree with for the most part.

Why would you even consider voting for someone who "might" change once he gets in office? That's not usually why people vote for someone. Usually, we vote for someone and hope he doesn't change once he's in office!

It's a moot question anyway - Webb is now a Dem who seems to have anger issues.


73 posted on 06/28/2006 6:40:36 AM PDT by iceskater (One person's mess is another person's filing system.)
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To: napscoordinator

It only lost by one vote. 66 of 100 Senators voted for it.


74 posted on 06/28/2006 6:42:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Txsleuth

I don't think that is necessarily so...

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned how much he reminded the poster of McCain...and I find maybe 1-2 freepers that can even tolerate McCain...

I have seen this guy debate....I would NOT like him if he was running as a Rep...especially against Allen.

I guess I must be in a minority, in that, I DON'T feel it is necessary for a candidate for public office HAS to have served in the military to be qualified..



I guess I like him from what I have seen of him which has been during the years in the military and he always made great speeches and seemed really nice. I still don't understand the change to a more liberal stance on issues, but deep down I don't believe that he is a democrat. I guess politics again ruined another good guy. It is sad.


75 posted on 06/28/2006 7:31:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: iceskater


It's a moot question anyway - Webb is now a Dem who seems to have anger issues.


I am really disappointed in him. I know that being a Senator is really something he really wants, but it is too bad that he decided that he needed to change his principles for the job. A job that he does not even have yet.


76 posted on 06/28/2006 7:36:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator; iceskater
A job that he does not even have yet.

Hopefully a job he won't ever have.

77 posted on 06/28/2006 8:14:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Txsleuth

Politically I think he's basically a libertarian.


78 posted on 06/28/2006 2:36:15 PM PDT by fadinglight
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To: fadinglight

Then he should run as one..and not be deceitful.


79 posted on 06/28/2006 3:17:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: fadinglight

"Politically I think he's basically a libertarian."

That might explain his pro-abortion position. In any case, he definitely doesn't have my vote.


80 posted on 06/29/2006 6:56:22 AM PDT by blitzgig
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