Posted on 06/27/2006 1:00:10 PM PDT by white trash redneck
What Muslims think
To find out, the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press carried out a large-scale attitudinal survey this spring. Titled "The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other," it interviewed Muslims in two batches of countries: six of them with long-standing, majority-Muslim populations (Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Turkey) and four of them in Western Europe with new, minority Muslim populations (France, Germany, Great Britain, Spain).
The survey, which also looks at Western views of Muslims, yielded some dismaying but not altogether surprising results. Its themes can be grouped under three rubrics.
A PROCLIVITY to conspiracy theories: In not one Muslim population polled does a majority believe that Arabs carried out the 9/11 attacks on the United States. The proportions range from a mere 15 percent in Pakistan holding Arabs responsible, to 48 percent among French Muslims.
Confirming recent negative trends in Turkey, the number of Turks who point the finger at Arabs has declined from 46 percent in 2002 to 16 percent today. In other words, in every one of these 10 Muslim communities, a majority views 9/11 as a hoax perpetrated by the American government, Israel, or some other agency.
Further, Muslims in certain countries (especially Egypt and Jordan) see Jews conspiratorially, as being responsible for bad relations between Muslims and Westerners.
Conspiracy theories also pertain to larger topics. Asked, "What is most responsible for Muslim nations' lack of prosperity?" between 14 percent (in Pakistan) and 43 percent (in Jordan) blame the policies of the US and other Western states, as opposed to indigenous problems, such as a lack of democracy or education, or the presence of corruption or radical Islam.
This conspiracism points to a widespread unwillingness in the umma to deal with realities, preferring the safer bromides of plots, schemes, and intrigues. It also reveals major problems adjusting to modernity.
SUPPORT FOR terrorism: All the Muslim populations polled display a solid majority of support for Osama bin Laden. Asked whether they have confidence in him, Muslims replied positively, ranging between 8 percent (in Turkey) to 72 percent (in Nigeria). Likewise, suicide bombing is popular. Muslims who call it justified range from 13 percent (in Germany) to 69 percent (in Nigeria). These appalling numbers suggest that terrorism by Muslims has deep roots and will remain a danger for years to come.
BRITISH AND Nigerian Muslims the most alienated: The United Kingdom stands out as a paradoxical country. Non-Muslims there have strikingly more favorable views of Islam and Muslims than elsewhere in the West; for example, only 32 percent of the British sample view Muslims as violent, significantly less their counterparts in France (41 percent), Germany (52 percent) or Spain (60 percent).
In the Muhammad cartoon dispute, Britons showed more sympathy for the Muslim outlook than did other Europeans. More broadly, Britons blame Muslims less for the poor state of Western-Muslim relations.
But British Muslims return the favor with the most malign anti-Western attitudes found in Europe. Many more of them regard Westerners as violent, greedy, immoral, and arrogant than do their counterparts in France, Germany, and Spain. In addition, whether asked about their attitudes toward Jews, responsibility for 9/11, or the place of women in Western societies, their views are notably more extreme.
The situation in Britain reflects the "Londonistan" phenomenon, whereby Britons preemptively cringe and Muslims respond to this weakness with aggression.
Nigerian Muslims have generally the most belligerent views on such issues as the state of Western-Muslim relations, the supposed immorality and arrogance of Westerners, and support for bin Laden and suicide terrorism. This extremism results, no doubt, from the violent state of Christian-Muslim relations in Nigeria.
Ironically, most Muslim alienation is found in those countries where Muslims are either the most or the least accommodated, suggesting that a middle path is best - where Muslims do not win special privileges, as in the UK, nor are they in an advanced state of hostility, as in Nigeria.
Overall, the Pew survey sends an undeniable message of crisis from one end to the other of the Muslim world.
widely prejudiced against Jews
a solid majority of support for Osama bin Laden
These people are the curse of the contemporary world.
Actually, they've been a curse since Hamm.
I look forward to the MSM examining these results. Not.
Of course, the moose see weakness and become more motivated to follow Mad Moe's orders to kill the infidels.
They are stuck with a 6th century mentality and a 6th century pedophile for a god.
widely prejudiced against Jews
a solid majority of support for Osama bin Laden
You'll also see results like this at DU and the Daily Kos and most meeting places involving liberals.
Allow me to add the correct punctuation to the headline:
What? Muslims think?
Oxymoron Alert¿
Short version: uneducated, surly, and homicidal.
and this despite the fact that their boy Osama has publicly copped to it at least twice. People so deluded as to be very, very dangerous!!
I can't say this strongly enough.
muslims are the mortal enemy of everyone in the west, whether you think they are your enemy or not. muslims are sure they are your enemy.
I detest their cult. I will have nothing to do with a muslim. I would have no second thoughts about taking up arms against muslims.
I am not a violent person, but I have studied the situation, and think I understand it well. It's us or them, and I'm ready to make sure it's us.
I have major problems with GWB's border control, but the war in Iraq, I'm with him. I just wish GWB would have the guts to name the enemy... islamofascists. Tom Tancredo said the same thing on Fox and Friends this morning, and E.D. almost wet her pants in fear of him being un-pc.
You are probably right, I only traced it back to Ishmael.
Can someone sound the klaxon over this one?! Bad stuff going down that dinks your nationalistic ego? Blame someone who's better off! Here are two very popular targets, venerable standbys if you will: The USA; Jews.
We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam. We've seen it in many ways.
It's a religious war, regardless of what "W" calls it and the muslims have declared it on everyone who isn't muslim. Particullary Jews and Christians.
Then there's the bit about Joseph (? may have the wrong "J" guy from the old testament --- always forget the name) supposed to kill all the folks in Israel and spares a tribe or so because they tricked 'em and/or were helpful . . . God says they'll be a curse forever . . . and we likely now call them the Palestinians.
No, they don't think -- that's the whole point of their cult. There are rules that apply to absolutely everything, including wiping your butt. You just have to be a good little mindless automaton.
The situation in Britain reflects the "Londonistan" phenomenon, whereby Britons preemptively cringe and Muslims respond to this weakness with aggression.
Yeah well that fits the description doesn't it. That's what muslims do the world over, wait for signs of weakness then attack, overwhelm and repress. What the hell is wrong with the English people?
Rule Britannia? Not anymore I'm afraid to say.
I've sometimes wondered what would happen if one walked around London wearing an "ISLAM IS FOR POOFS" t-shirt.
Who would assault one first?
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