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House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 (Utah GOP Exec. Dir. says good chance Cannon could go down)
National Journal: The Hotline ^ | 27 June 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:37:28 AM PDT by Spiff

House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 Some quotes to illustrate the importance of this race.

"There is a very good chance that he could go down," Jeff Hartley, executive director of the Utah Republican Party, tells First Read. "You wouldn't have the involvement from the White House if he weren't in jeopardy." (NBC News)

Consultant LeVarr Webb: "A low turnout is expected, so be one of the few who make a difference and have a voice." (Utah Policy Daily) )

UT GOP Chair Joe Cannon "says he's trying to stay neutral" in his brother's UT 03 primary, "but it didn't come across that way" in his online comments about challenger/alleged Satan victim John Jacob (Salt Lake Tribune).

A poll published over the weekend by the Deseret Morning News and KSL-TV, conducted by Dan Jones & Associates, found Cannon ahead — 46-33 percent among registered voters in the 3rd District. But 18 percent of voters remained undecided. "That's one of the highest 'undecideds' numbers I've seen so close to a primary election," said Jones, who has polled in Utah for more than 30 years. (Deseret News)

Jacob backtracks on his "Satan" comments: "What the [Salt Lake Tribune] reported and what I said weren't the same thing. It wasn't that [the devil] was trying to keep me out of Washington. I was just saying when you're trying to get into politics, there's a lot of adversity. … Contrary to reports of saying it was keeping me from being there, it was going to help me in training when I get there. It's not the devil; it's adversity." (Utah Policy Daily)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; cannon; chriscannon; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; jacob; mmp; predictions; provo; satan; utah
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To: Dane
OH BTW, you do know that jacob did blame his campaign contribution torubles on satan.

Did I lose something in the translation? You're not denying that Cannon received hundreds of thousands of dollars from pro-mass immigration/amnesty groups are you? You only want to rant about Buchanan's democratic right to participate while conveniently ignoring that little tidbit.

41 posted on 06/27/2006 12:28:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Hydroshock
I would rather have Old Scratch himself in that seat then an open border pro amnesty politician.

You do know that Jacob is pro-amnesty, right?

42 posted on 06/27/2006 12:29:34 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: catholicfreeper
He is danger because radical organizations and groups have had a bulleye on him for years.

Oh, so poor Cannon is a victim, "worn down" by those meanie radical organizations?

Every other observer plainly sees that Cannon is in trouble because he has become the amnesty poster boy, and as such is out of step with his conservative district. The only reason you are defending him is because he has helped facilitate the flow of illegals.

It is so lame when the FROBL trots out all these strawmen, and denies the Cannon record when that record is the only reason they support him.

Just come out and admit that you like Cannon for the same reason the immigration lawyers like him. Step out from behind the strawman, it'll be okay.

43 posted on 06/27/2006 12:30:29 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: dirtboy
To disguise that you are calling for rewarding lawbreakers?

You do know that Jacob advocates breaking immigration law, right?

44 posted on 06/27/2006 12:31:16 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Did I lose something in the translation?

uh no you didn't, John Jacob blamed his lack of campaign funds due to satan.

45 posted on 06/27/2006 12:31:34 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Chris Shays has a B from Americans for Better Immigration as opposed to Chris Cannon's F- (as posted in this thread.)
46 posted on 06/27/2006 12:33:49 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Dane

Could somebody ping me to tonight's (or tomorrow's) inevitable "John Jacob won even though he lost" thread?


47 posted on 06/27/2006 12:34:08 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: NapkinUser

It is extremely unusual for a President to get involved in a local GOP primary race.


48 posted on 06/27/2006 12:34:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: NapkinUser

"F-" LOL!

As if an "F" isn't enough of failure, no we need to add a minus just to emphasize that we really really dislike what he did.

Because we are totally cereal.


49 posted on 06/27/2006 12:35:42 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
You do know that Jacob advocates breaking immigration law, right?

I am just commenting on the way folks try to color their opponents by either omitting key words or playing the race card.

50 posted on 06/27/2006 12:35:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Dane

If we threw out every congress critter who made to unusual statements your
"Scottish Law" Senator Specter would lead the line out of congress.


52 posted on 06/27/2006 12:36:40 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: AmishDude; EternalVigilance
Could somebody ping me to tonight's (or tomorrow's) inevitable "John Jacob won even though he lost" thread?

No problem, I pinged EV since he probably will be the author of the howard dean like "loss is victory" thread about the Cannon/Jacob race thread on FR.

53 posted on 06/27/2006 12:36:56 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: catholicfreeper
You will notice on the above link that there are links to Tanton groups like project numbers and others that show these group have been targeting him for years.

So folks who opposed Cannon's stance on illegal immigration should not try to replace him with someone else after failing previously?

54 posted on 06/27/2006 12:38:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Dane
It just occurred to me. Jacob is actually a pseudonym. Actually, it's a shortened name. His full name is:
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
I know because it's my name too.
55 posted on 06/27/2006 12:39:08 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Well I guess u are calling 52% of the UTAH Convention delegates Cannon haters.

Because 52% of them voted for Jacob and 48% of them voted for Cannon.

And thats why we have a runnoff. Neither one got 60%.


56 posted on 06/27/2006 12:40:33 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Plutarch

Persoannly I don't think radical orgainazations like FAIR ,Numbers, CIS are strawmen. They pretty much want to halt all legal immigration(But I forget the mantra is we are only against illegal immigratrion) and want to reduce the population to 150 million. That to me is pretty radical. There enviromentialist tendencies in those groups are at times more extreme than Al Gore.

TO see what Cannon been fighting against go here.

www.chriscannon.com/index.cfm?B=e&Page=Immigration&Subpage=2


57 posted on 06/27/2006 12:40:55 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: MikeA
By the way, looking at your Freeper name, you do realize Reagan was very pro-immigration don't you?? Would you guys have been targetting Reagan for primary defeat too??

According to some former loyal Reagan advisors he considered that a mistake of his administration. Yes he was very pro-immigration but also said a nation without borders isn't a nation.

We've been down the road of amnesty before, it doesn't work and I'm not going to support any candidate like Cannon who wants to take that failed path again.

58 posted on 06/27/2006 12:41:07 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: AmishDude

"Could somebody ping me to tonight's (or tomorrow's) inevitable "John Jacob won even though he lost" thread?"

Yeah, go spend some time and help turn your state red.


59 posted on 06/27/2006 12:41:45 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: dirtboy

People can do what they want too. But I think its important to see that he has been under constant attack from some pretty out of district organizations. This isnt justthis year


60 posted on 06/27/2006 12:42:38 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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