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Sexual orientation of men determined before birth (mom gives you gay)
Reuters Health ^ | Tue Jun 27, 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 7:00:11 AM PDT by presidio9

A man's sexual orientation appears to be determined in the womb, a new study suggests.

Past research by Dr. Anthony F. Bogaert of Brock University in St. Catherines, Ontario and colleagues has shown that the more older brothers a man has, the more likely he is to be gay. But it has not been clear if this is a prenatal effect or a psychosocial effect, related to growing up with older male siblings.

To investigate, Bogaert studied 944 gay and straight men, including several who were raised with adopted, half- or step-siblings or were themselves adopted. He reasoned that if the relationship between having older male siblings and homosexuality was due to family environment or child-rearing practices, it would be seen whether or not a man's older brothers were biological or adopted.

Bogaert found that the link between having older brothers and homosexuality was present only if the siblings were biologically related -- this relationship was seen between biological brothers who were not raised together. The amount of time that a man was reared with older brothers had no association with sexual orientation.

"These results support a prenatal origin to sexual orientation development in men and indicate that the fraternal birth-order effect is probably the result of a maternal 'memory' for male gestations or births," Bogaert writes in his report in PNAS Early Edition.

A woman's body may see a male fetus as "foreign," Bogaert explains, and her immune response to subsequent male fetuses may grow progressively stronger.

"If this immune theory were correct, then the link between the mother's immune reaction and the child's future sexual orientation would probably be some effect of maternal anti-male antibodies on the sexual differentiation of the brain," he suggests.

Other lines of research also support the sexual orientation-maternal immune response link, he notes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: backoffimascientist; forprotagoras; homosexualagenda; junkscience
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1 posted on 06/27/2006 7:00:16 AM PDT by presidio9
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brings one word to mind: "Baloney"!


2 posted on 06/27/2006 7:01:09 AM PDT by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: presidio9
More "news" from .
3 posted on 06/27/2006 7:01:57 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: presidio9

I wonder if any link was drawn to how many homosexuals were abused as children, or recruited into the lifestyle when they were teenagers.


4 posted on 06/27/2006 7:04:32 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: presidio9

Hey, I'm just glad its the mom's fault for a change.

We guys have been blamed for everything for so long it time someone else gets it...


5 posted on 06/27/2006 7:04:41 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: presidio9

So, this research supports the thesis that homosexuality is a pathology, right?
susie


6 posted on 06/27/2006 7:05:12 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: presidio9
First determine what makes the baby's sex, then you can adventure into what is in the baby's mind that makes it want to be something else.
7 posted on 06/27/2006 7:05:45 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: presidio9

In an era of highly politicized "scientific" research, one must study the motivations behind the research, as well as the research itself, to assess its validity. Personal agendas on the part of the researcher can introduce biases which might not be obvious just from reading the paper.

In this particular instance, we need to know whether the pirncipal investigator is himself homosexual.


8 posted on 06/27/2006 7:06:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: brytlea

Sssshhhhhhh!


9 posted on 06/27/2006 7:06:16 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9
From another article in which the author was interviewed. this needs to be looked at in context of the overall rate of homosexuality in men, which he suggested is about 3 percent. With several older brothers the rate may increase from 3 percent to 5 percent,

If you asked 944 men if they are gay or not (regardless of any other circumstances such as the number of brothers, living conditions etc.) the error rate of the simple question is +/- 4%, 19 times out 20.

The study is not statistically significant.

10 posted on 06/27/2006 7:07:10 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: presidio9

[cough] junk science [cough]


11 posted on 06/27/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: JustDoItAlways

I think it is full of crap!


12 posted on 06/27/2006 7:08:19 AM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: presidio9

single moms do that. if there's a dad in the house, the boy knows how to behave.


13 posted on 06/27/2006 7:08:54 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: brytlea

My thoughts exactly. Margret Sanger, their hero, would propose a solution.


14 posted on 06/27/2006 7:08:56 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: brytlea
Personally I belive that a tiny percentage of homosexuals are born that way but most are made.
15 posted on 06/27/2006 7:08:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: brytlea

I wonder ir NARL would still support a mother's right to "choose"


16 posted on 06/27/2006 7:10:27 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: presidio9

LOL, my dad had 6 older brothers...guess I'll have to tell him about this study.


17 posted on 06/27/2006 7:10:36 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: presidio9

May I suggest that researchers instead look at the correlation between early childhood sexual abuse of boys and the onset of homosexual tendencies.


19 posted on 06/27/2006 7:11:05 AM PDT by Obadiah (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: presidio9

This is about as believable as the rest of Reuters "news". Rubbish.


20 posted on 06/27/2006 7:11:32 AM PDT by RoadTest (“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil” –Thomas Mann)
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