Posted on 06/27/2006 3:41:53 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
When the New York State Assembly's legislative session ended on June 23, 2006, Assembly Bill 8036 died in committee. If enacted, the bill would have required that "all pupils in grades kindergarten through twelve in all public schools in the state ... receive instruction in all aspects of the controversy surrounding evolution and the origins of man." A later provision specified that such instruction would include information about "intelligent design and information effectively challenging the theory of evolution."
The bill was never expected to succeed; its sponsor, Assemblyman Daniel L. Hooker (R-District 127), was reported as explaining that his intention was more to spark discussion than to pass the bill, and as acknowledging that the bill was "religion-based." Moreover, Hooker is not planning on seeking a third term in the Assembly due to his military commitments: he is expected to be on active duty with the Marine Corps until at least early 2007.
Religious sources such as the Catholic priests Georges Lemaitre, Cusa, Grimaldi and von Kleist?
What do you think?
You again? Let's see, last time we had a discussion you left the scene without ever offering an answer to the question I posed about falsifiability and abiogenesis. IOW's, you punted.
And just what the hell is "ounching holes" anyway? Are they falsifiable? :-}
I think you guys need some more help. What do you think?
Clownish behavior.
From the link:
the Russian plant biochemist and evolutionary biologist Aleksandr I. Oparin
He *was* an evolutionary biologist studying the Origin of Life.
If I punted it because I don't care about uou or you opinions. abiogensesis is an unsolved probelm. I believe it will be solved and you don't. I think opposition to abiogenesis will join the flat earth in the trash heap of ideas, and you don't. so what?
No one has provided an alternative to evolution that does not entail magic. Until some does, the opposition to evolution is just noise.
I think you are getting your butt kicked. Closing your eyes and saying "am not!" doesn't really hold up as argumentation.
I find the universe at large to be evidence of a greater power, a designer if you insist. Good or bad design is a subjective matter irrelevant to the point I was making. I know of no definitive test to detect design in nature. One can infer it or not depending on ones worldview.
You should have asked that question a long time ago, it could have saved you a lot of hysterical shrieking and loss of face.
Like I said you made crap out of whole cloth.
LOL a subjective opinion from another of the pack? Jump in, I can handle at least a couple of more of the towering intellects from "THE LIST".
I think you're being awfully evasive for someone who's oh so confident.
Do you think the giraffe's neck is too short?
And yet here you are posting to me again. LOL, you punted because you and your keyboard were tied in knots.
You do understand how silly it is posting to me that you don't care about me or my opinions. Thanks for the chuckle.
I think the giraffes neck is just right. Of course, you don't have the requisite male anatomy to answer any of the questions I posed to you. I don't suffer from the same malady. But then again you could be a woman so that dig could be ineffective, so to speak.
Yes, considering my matrimonial status suddenly acquiring such anatomy would be unfortunate to say the least.
I likewise don't have a problem with the giraffe's neck. I wonder why you've spent so much time blithering about it and implying you did if you don't either. Were you trying to make some sort of point??
If you'll notice, in my first post responding to your non sequitur I said the giraffe's neck works fine. Since I already answered your question long ago, your dig was doubly ineffective.
Exactly my opinion. So what? Life designed from non life in the lab would effect my worldview not one iota. But by your standards it is just not science to state that life on earth arose from chemical reactions. Biogeneisis is eminently falsifiable, abiogeneisis is not.
No one has provided an alternative to evolution that does not entail magic. Until some does, the opposition to evolution is just noise.
Evolution happens. Big deal. Intellgient design happens. Again, big deal. Evolution is your Holy Grail. It's not mine. I don't spend my life on these threads, I just come here to have fun with the towering intellects. Thanks for the fun but I have to go now. Life calls!
Ha! Now that was funny but I really have to "move on". If I don't finish paitning the garage I may wake up in the morning absent some anatomy.
Cheers!
And like I said my point was valid. You want it both ways. You should refrain from bearing false witness so freely.
You STILL won't address the point I made about YOU being the one calling the designer's design into question, not the other poster. Yet you had to be so smug about attacking him for his alleged audacity when it was YOU who questioned the giraffe's design. Every time you ignore this point will be another indicator of your low level of integrity. The indication so far is very bad.
"I think the giraffes neck is just right."
"The notion that the giraffes neck and leg dimensions were naturally selected is one that is rather dubious if one has ever seen a giraffe drink water."
What is the problem with the giraffe's neck when it comes to drinking water? Or were you for there being a problem before you were against it, Mr. Kerry? :)
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