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Colorado: For some, smoking ban is a bitter pill to swallow
LovelandFYI ^ | 6/25/2006 | Christine Steele

Posted on 06/26/2006 8:19:38 PM PDT by SheLion

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My favorite place to eat almost closed their doors after the first smoking ban in Maine in 2000.

The owner then invested in a very expensive liquor license to once again allow smoking and business started to boom again.

They then remodeled.  The place is beautiful.  4 big ceiling air purifiers.  Full menu.  A beautiful glass enclosed non-smoking section.  Sign on the entrance door "This is a smoking establishment.  No one under 18 admitted without guardian."

It is a Sports Bar with the full computer golf game across the back wall;  bunch of big TV's.  Just beautiful.

But that still wasn't good enough for the state.  A full no smoking ban went into effect a year ago January.  I went once after the ban, was so miserable that I couldn't sit there like old times and enjoy the evening that I haven't put myself through that again.

And do you think the state will reimburse this business owner for spending his own money to be able to accommodate everyone?  You can bet they will not.

To all you smokers who can still go into town or the city and go into a restaurant and/or bar or tavern.....order your meal and beverage and smoke, you better treasure every day that you can.

Maine went totally smoke free in 2003.  That was my recreation:  going out for meals a few times a month.  It was wonderful.  I didn't know how wonderful it was until we smokers in Maine lost that right.

So, take it from me!  Enjoy the places that can continue to accommodate you and the ones who still have smoking sections!

 

1 posted on 06/26/2006 8:19:48 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; CSM; ...

I will be back in the morning to continue. 

2 posted on 06/26/2006 8:20:34 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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3 posted on 06/26/2006 8:23:06 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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The do-gooders are only getting started. Even a mob boss gets sated occasionally. Dogooders are insatiable. This victory by the health-nazis is only a bare beginning.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 8:46:13 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Seruzawa

As a non-smoker I defend your rights to smoke at restaurants, bars etc....if I dont like the smokey places I dont go there but would not deny others that right if they wish. The gestapo tyrants on the left would impose their solutions...or slap a punish tax on you. BEWARE THE SOCIALIST LEFTISTS who step on freedoms. Defeat them.


5 posted on 06/26/2006 9:17:16 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping.
Sad thing is, I think these people enjoy taking things away from us.
What a bunch of losers. How dull their lives must be.


6 posted on 06/26/2006 9:28:53 PM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: SheLion

I choke on second hand smoke, so I don't go where the smokers gather.
Saves me a lot of money, avoiding the NV casino's!

But I still detest the anti-smoking Nazi's, they are the sort of imbeciles that want to ban my machine guns!

I defend everyone's right to smoke, please return the favor and support my right to own machine guns.

If your first reaction is "No", then you are getting the government you deserve for abandoning full and uncompromised adherence to our countries constitution and guiding principles!


7 posted on 06/26/2006 9:31:25 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Seruzawa

Exactly.
We used to say cigs were just the beginning. Now, they're after soda, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and are even whining about starbucks. Some states have outlawed "junk food" in schools. Isn't that the parents job, to decide what their kids can eat? I thought it was. But, I guess nanny-state knows best.
There is no end in sight.


8 posted on 06/26/2006 9:34:35 PM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: SheLion

I'd bet decent money that the anti-smoking movement started by a transplanted Californian. The same thing happened in Nevada when the head of the anti-smoking jihad in Cali moved to Vegas (apparently, after she created her dream state back in Cali she still wasn't happy and had to come oppress more people in NV). The do-gooders (who don't want the Feds in their bedroom but do want them in your house if you smoke) just can't live unless they can force everybody else to believe what they believe.


9 posted on 06/26/2006 10:10:11 PM PDT by bpjam (If we take 12M illegals, they have to take Kennedy & McCain!)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 06/26/2006 10:28:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Seruzawa
The do-gooders are only getting started. Even a mob boss gets sated occasionally. Dogooders are insatiable. This victory by the health-nazis is only a bare beginning.

I don't know about "just getting started."  They started these bans in California and Maine in 2000 and 2003.  Sickening.

But we all should keep in mind that once they are finished controlling and restricting smokers, they are going after the obese and foods in restaurants, etc.

The only ones that are standing up for their rights is the NRA and the Liquor Company's.  I sure wish Big Tobacco had the b*alls that the NRA and the liquor company's have.  If they did, smokers wouldn't be in this mess today.

11 posted on 06/27/2006 4:04:32 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: tflabo

As a non-smoker I defend your rights to smoke at restaurants, bars etc....if I dont like the smokey places I dont go there but would not deny others that right if they wish. The gestapo tyrants on the left would impose their solutions...or slap a punish tax on you. BEWARE THE SOCIALIST LEFTISTS who step on freedoms. Defeat them.

THANK you!!!!  Actually, private businesses today have installed big smoke eaters.  Unless you stop into Joe's little bar and grill on the corner, there really isn't any reason for a restaurant/bar/tavern to have "smokey rooms" anymore.


12 posted on 06/27/2006 4:06:31 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Richard-SIA

I choke on second hand smoke, so I don't go where the smokers gather.
Saves me a lot of money, avoiding the NV casino's!

Like I said:

Actually, private businesses today have installed big smoke eaters.  Unless you stop into Joe's little bar and grill on the corner, there really isn't any reason for a restaurant/bar/tavern to have "smoky rooms" anymore.


13 posted on 06/27/2006 4:08:40 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Richard-SIA
I defend everyone's right to smoke, please return the favor and support my right to own machine guns.

Oh!  When is it legal for a common citizen to own a machine gun or an uzzi?  I don't know much about guns so I am curious.  Can you legally obtain a permit for a machine gun?  Saying that you are just a common folk like the rest of us???

14 posted on 06/27/2006 4:10:36 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion
I am actually traveling to Colorado later this week, for 10 days. Most of the group I will be with the first part of the trip do not smoke, so I would not have smoked in front of them anyway (I would have gone outside, or to a different part of the bar, etc.), but the second part of the trip, after the ban goes into effect, will be just my husband, son, and I. If they don't honor my request for smoking rooms at the hotels, there will be hell to pay, but we will see. I will let you know how it was when I return.
15 posted on 06/27/2006 4:13:09 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: bpjam

I'd bet decent money that the anti-smoking movement started by a transplanted Californian. The same thing happened in Nevada when the head of the anti-smoking jihad in Cali moved to Vegas (apparently, after she created her dream state back in Cali she still wasn't happy and had to come oppress more people in NV). The do-gooders (who don't want the Feds in their bedroom but do want them in your house if you smoke) just can't live unless they can force everybody else to believe what they believe.

Actually, this is just the tip of the iceberg.  When Big Tobacco fell to their knees in front of the Attorney Generals, the Tobacco Settlement was born.

From the MSA, state boards of health all across the United States jumped on the bandwagon and started creating these Partnerships for a Tobacco Free Everything.  Which are being paid for by the taxes SMOKERS pay on cigarettes.

So, in all actuality, smokers themselves are paying for all the control, restrictions and bans by buying cigarettes and paying that tax.

Talk about "personal abuse!"  Sickening isn't it?!


16 posted on 06/27/2006 4:14:40 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: codercpc
but the second part of the trip, after the ban goes into effect, will be just my husband, son, and I. If they don't honor my request for smoking rooms at the hotels, there will be hell to pay, but we will see. I will let you know how it was when I return.

Let me know and good luck.

I have heard horror stories of how people book a smoking motel/hotel room, only to find out that there IS none left when you check in.  And since it is the last minute, how can you find another motel/hotel?  It's a nightmare.  So, I sure hope all goes well for you.  Just make sure you let them know that you are 'demanding' (in a nice way of course) a smoking room.

17 posted on 06/27/2006 4:17:43 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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“Truckers have told me that they’ll just drive on through to Wyoming.” he said.

Story available at http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=%2BWyoming+%2Bsmoking+%2Bban+%2B2006&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2&x=wrt&u=billingsgazette.net/articles/2006/06/19/news/wyoming/50-ban.txt&w=wyoming+smoking+ban+2006&d=ezzB-TmtM_n8&icp=1&.intl=us

Published on Monday, June 19, 2006.
Last modified on 6/19/2006 at 1:00 am
Smoking ban petitioners organizing

By Gazette News Services
CHEYENNE -- As expected, liquor dealers and local private clubs have decided to undertake a petition drive to refer the city's just-approved smoking ban in most public places to voters.

"We're not organized as of right now," said Dan Hatanelas, general manager of a local liquor store and spokesman for the group leading the petition drive.

Organizers need to collect 2,676 signatures from registered voters in the city.

The law, which was approved by the Cheyenne City Council on Monday, is set to go into effect Aug. 15. If it is referred to a vote, the law will be suspended until the vote is held in November.

The ban prohibits smoking in almost all public places, including bars and private clubs.

City Councilman Don Pierson, the primary sponsor of the ban, said he welcomes the referendum.

"I look forward to the vote of the people, who I feel very strongly will support the ordinance," he said.

If they don't, Pierson said he can live with that.


Copyright © The Billings Gazette, a division of Lee Enterprises.


18 posted on 06/27/2006 4:18:19 AM PDT by Raycpa
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19 posted on 06/27/2006 4:21:32 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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Sure! Let them close the doors of private businesses! I hope they will be able to sleep at night. The world doesn't rotate on their azzes!


20 posted on 06/27/2006 4:23:12 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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