To: anita; Alas Babylon!; Morgan in Denver; Fishtalk; rodguy911; TexasPatriot8; Peach; MNJohnnie; ...
Top 10 for Sunday, June 25th, 2006
See disclaimer in previous post - this is a ping list of posts that are worthy of extra study, IMHO.
10th Place - Miss Marple
- #347, "Boxer thinks the North Korea problem exists because Bush was "obsessed" with Iraq. Lugar babbles about Clinton administration asking him to go and then North Korea called it off... This was a total waste of my time. Nothing newsworthy, nothing said that we have not heard, except for one thing:.. Boxer's emphasis on how the democrats "were on the same page as General Casey" indicates to me that this news was leaked to the NYT by a Congressional democrat for the exact purpose that Boxer used it for this morning."
- #350, "LA Times guy on CBS says that now next week the President will get to explain why General Casey's timetable is not the same as the democrats' timetable... I WAS RIGHT. THIS IS A COORDINATED EFFORT."
- #356, "Regarding the Iraq amnesty plan. Schaefer says that it was leaked to CBS, and before they could air it they denied it. Newsweek says it is true. So, Schaefer is going to believe Newsweek rather than the government of Iraq. And the Washington Post guy says that no matter what they say, they can't put the toothpaste back in the tube... In other words, we printed a lie and no matter how they try to deny it, we got people PO'd at Iraq... Gee, hese newspaper guys are so pathetic. They are hopefully speculating on Republicans losing seats... Now they are on to democrat presidential hopefuls. Pointing out that these people's positions are getting sealed in cement... On Republicans, of course they think McCain has an edge. No other Republican gets a mention... And that's it. Thank goodness, this is only a half-hour show! LOL!"
- #460, "NASA director on Fox now. 'The shuttle is not as safe as we thought it was, it is more safe than the naysayers say it is.'"
- #469, "After getting two children through the public schools (which in our area are excellent) I must say that the curriculum is woefully short on world history and geography. I myself had to learn where a whole bunch of "stans" were during the Afghanistan operation, but those were countries which were only provinces of the USSR when I was in school... I think the lack of education in geography is especially hurtful to our country. Geography gives you bearings in the world, so that you know when you hear "Indonesia" you can visualize jungles rather than the Arctic tundra. Without geographical knowledge, all of the names of countries are simply words."
- #477, "Ashton Carter on Fox being interviewed on Fox by Brian Wilson. He is the one who said we should bomb the missile while it is waiting for launch. Doesn't believe the North Koreanas would start a war ove this... Absolute ignorance on parade. He is assuming that N. Korea thinks like normal folks."
- #678, "Did you happen to see the segment on Michael Gerson? It was very interesting. One thing I heard him say that when they were discussing the AIDS program for Africa, the President asked him what he thought. He said, 'If this is doable and we do nothing, it would be a source of great shame.' ... Yes. Shame! Gerson and the President believe in shame. This is a GOOD thing, after the shameless years of the Clinton administration... Gerson is oe of the many quality people that President Bush has had working with him. This is the sign of a great president...the quality of people he surrounds himself with... Whoever follows President Bush will have some very large boots to fill, and I daresay Gerson is probably one of the greatest speechwriters of all time."
9th Place - OldFriend
- #384, "You have the situation in Bosnia exactly right... My son served in X42 regime during that period of time... He agrees with your assessment... To make matters worse, if that is possible, Weasley Clark dropped cluster bombs on civilians, bombed a civilian train, and bombed so much debris into the Danube that no commercial traffic could move goods to the people all along the Danube for the longest time. Causing terrible hardship the the civilian populations along the river. He bombed the water supply, the home heating oil supply, etc... Not a word from the media about those atrocities."
- #452, "King is becoming more of a media prostitute than Schumer... King is on our radio programs just about every day... He is fully owned and operated by the union bosses here in NY... Ports, run by the union thugs... More money for first responders......IOW, money for union bosses in police and fire unions... With King it's always follow the campaign donations to see where he's coming from... It is in our own best interest not to get on the emotion driven bandwagon, no matter who is driving the wagon... I suspect, Warner, like Specter, has a dem on his speed dial... These old fools need to be sent back home, IOW, redeployed back to their own districts, PERMANENTLY."
- #458, "Speaking of Goldman Sachs. I hope all our side is happy now. Goldman Sachs is head of the consortium taking over the Ports from the British firm now in charge."
- #502, "Even the text books are biased. My daughter's AP history book had the Bay of Pigs fiasco as happening during the Eisenhower administration. No mention of Kennedy at all... I read a good part of that textbook. It's a good thing I was alive during most of the so called 'facts' they were presenting."
- #505, "Since Menendez resides in the gutter he'll just have to put up with the revelation... He put his mistress on his payroll and lived with her while still married. He has some interesting weasel words explaining it all......LOL... Like McGreevy, Corslime, and Klinton, they have no personal integrity at all. Not to mention Toricelli and assorted other crooks in NJ"
8th Place - MNJohnnie
- #221, "... Murtha last week, Feingold this week. See Timmy is RACING for the bottom of the ratings. Wonder if they will be changing the name to Meet the DNC? It would be more intellectually honest."
- #300, "... BAGHDAD, Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Sunday offered an olive branch to insurgents who join in rebuilding Iraq and said lawmakers should set a timeline for the Iraqi military and police to take control of security throughout the country... The prime minister made no mention of any timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces in a 24-point national reconciliation plan he presented to parliament... The plan would include an amnesty for insurgents and opposition figures who have not been involved in terrorist activities. Al-Maliki stressed that insurgent killers would not escape justice..." (from linked FoxNews article: Iraqi PM Offers Incentives for Rebuilding Help; U.S. Reportedly Plans Troop Drawdown)
- #409, "... Boxer really is a very stupid person. We have 'Amnestied' people who have harmed our troops after every war we have ever fought. What does she think we are doing when we accept a surrender? Someone should ask one of these complete political bigots if that means they are advocating we NOT take prisoners anymore? What this "No Quarter" Democrats?"
- #426, "See if we had any JOURNALISTS, as opposed to DNC Media whores, someone would ask Feingold to explain THIS document then. But of course they will just sit their and let him lie, lie, lie and lie... 'Every Year is Worse Than the Previous Year' ... Captured Internal Al-Qaeda Documentation of Failure from Iraq, Found April 16... A glance at the reality of Baghdad in light of the latest events ..."
7th Place - Peach
- #71, "Will even one Sunday morning host remind the Democrats that after Clinton signed the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, they were ALL concerned about Iraq's WMD program? Kerry even appeared on ABC with Cokie Roberts and urged regime change with Americans boots on the ground...." (with excellent quotes and excerpts from writings by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Harold Ford, Tom Lantos, Tom Harkin, Arlen Specter (RINOs count), Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, Wesley Clark, Jacques Chirac, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, William Cohen, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Al Gore, Bob Graham, Ted Kennedy, Carl Levin, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi and Scott Ritter)
- #74, "Regarding Al Gore's movie about global warming:... 17,000 scientists to date have signed a petition disputing Gore's contention that global warming is human induced... The scientists further state that the earth goes through cycles and this is but one cycle that we've seen before. .." (link to thread "Al's Big Adventure": This summer's hottest hit)
- #479, "This is the RNC's response to Russ Feingold's appearance on Meet the Press today... And I will note that Carl Levin said today that the troop deployment will be political and will not be based on what the military wants. Levin further said troop deployment SHOULD be based on what the military wants... This is contrary to his other statements. The administration has always said that we would draw down as the Iraqi military geared up and that we would listen to the generals on the ground."
- #503, "The cartoon can be viewed here:... " (in response to post 493 by Barset)
6th Place - TexasPatriot8
- #360, "I could only stand to watch Meet The Press for a few seconds and I just couldn't take Feingolds lies. Now the dems want us to leave Iraq and go to Somalia because AL Qaeda is there now. Well there aren't more of them in Somalia than in Iraq! I've heard this weak argument the past couple weeks and it's already old... Somalia has no infra structure to work with, and is full of people who don't want a centralized government and don't want a democracy because they all want to be in control themselves. And if we do leave Iraq and go to Somalia, how long would we be there before the Democrats start crying we have to get out because we're losing too many troops? I mean, they seem to have this dillusion that you aren't winning a war unless you lose NO troops and the whole world approves and likes you... The Democrats are genetically incapable of drawing a line in the sand and saying 'THIS FAR AND NO FURTHER!', and right now, THAT is what is needed. Leaving Iraq would prove nothing, and in time, wherever we go after leaving Iraq, moving the military out of there and into Afghanistan, or to the Sudan or Somalia, the Democrats would eventually by demanding we withdraw from there. All the while, they say not a peep about withdrawing from Japan or Germany or South Korea or Bosnia, since those were democrat President deployments. Especially Bosnia. Ten years next year we've been there and the democrats don't seem to want to pull out of there. Typical democrat double standard. Stay where you're not needed, leave where you are. But then that's democrats in general. Always wanting to go where they're not wanted or needed."
- #377, "If you're a democrat now a days, everything is Bush's fault. What I know about Bosnia is this; ... The human rights violations that were supposedly going on there were blown way out of perportion compared to what was actually found. A few thousand compared to tens of thousands "reported", and the things the Serbs did to the Muslim Croats and Bosnians, they learned from those same Muslims when they did those things to the Serbs years before, the Serbs were only handing out payback, but as is the case with Kofi Anans Muslim controlled U.N., no one does anything when it's Christians being slaughtered, but let the Christians fight back and kill Muslims, and HEY WAIT!!! Time for the U.S. to put a stop to this... Like in Rwanda. The U.N. disarms the Christians in the South, leaving the Muslims in the north armed, and then they later slaughter over a million Christians in the South, and the U.N. does NOTHING. Bosnia is that same kind of joke. The U.S. was used by Clinton to be the blind teacher to punnishes the student to hit back at the bully who hit them first. That's what we did in Bosnia." (see also posts 384 by OldFriend and 432 by TexasPatriot8)
- #417, "I wish someone on FNS would have mentioned the fact that we wouldn't have captured the seven muslim terrorists in Miami if not for the NSA Wire Tapping program. That's a FACT the FBI has made clear, by saying HOW they caught these guys. If not for the NSA program that Bush autorized, the Sears Tower would likely be a memory sometime the next few months. Undersecretary of the Treasury Stuart Levey made that fact clear Friday night on the Lehrer News Hour."
- #432, "... It's a joke, and like all liberals, Wes Clark got off scott, and then comes home and blames Bush for everything. Clark is joke and it's a travesty that he ever reached the rank of Gereral. I've heard MANY officers that served with him over the years say what a fool he was and how incompetant he always has been. No surprise Clinton put Clark in charge of Bosnia. A slut putting a boob in charge of a war."
- #494, "... It's so frustrating! If Clinton focused as much on National Security and the safety of our Military and maintaining it, as he did his fly, much of the trouble we're going through today wouldn't have been necessary."
5th Place - rodguy911
- #55, "Criminal prosecution of the NYT This is a great thing, the NYT needs to be sued/prosecuted. It will be tied up in court forever but finally it would send a message to the socialist media, get on our side or get the hell out...."
- #65, "Good politicians never deal with questions they don't already have the answers to. It's the same with the Sunday drivebys... These guys they put on over and over basically offer up nothing new. The fat tim's, stuffys, already know what will be said and how that message will defend or help the left since that's what it is all about!... The correction, if there is any, is left to us. We are the keepers of truth."
- #111, "We need tee-shirts that say: Freerepublic.com--the ultimate lie detectors."
- #332, "Poor Liberman he actually thought he could maintain a principle or two in the rat party,actually stand for something,I guess they showed him, it's their way or no way."
- #480, "Just listened to feingold on MTP. He's definitely running for VP... He triangulates as well as Hillary. Problem is that she really does not need him. He can't help her enough areas she is weak--the south, elsewhere... Feingold counts on sounding good, he sounds authoritatively.Some people will actually believe some of what he says. But the truth is he really stands for what most dems stand for; expedience. Whatever works at the time is fine with him, as well as most dems."
- #657, "I heard all that, it was awesome. Wolffie must have been trying to hide under the table as the answer to his question kept getting worse and worse and worse for CNX types... First the oil minister said "yeah wolfie we just set a record this month" by the time he was through he was telling Woolfie that Iraq's plans ware to supersede the Saudis by 2016! ... I could just imagine woolfie trying to dial up the limo to take him home immediately if not sooner."
4th place - Fishtalk
What a wonderful post! Truly one of the best posts I've seen in quite some time. A "gem."
- #354, "Good morning fine people, ladies and gems, AB... I am watching Russ Feingold on MTP and first thing I begin to curse. Only nice curse words though... WHY, please tell me WHY, are these IDIOTS constantly on MPT? Last week we had crazy Murtha and his 'Okinawa' plan. Now Russ Feingold... I would suggest that MTP is one of the few political talk shows many average Americans watch, as opposed to political junkees like us... And THESE people are who they see...Murtha and Feingold. Who are, I hasten to add, hardly indicative of a) what average Americans think of the war and b) even what the average congress critter thinks of the war... witness last week's votes. Not to mention the constant refrain that 'this administration did a terrible job of running this war'... This administration folks, no matter what criticisms you may levy against various policies, has done a WONDERFUL job on this war. They sucessfully invaded with little loss of life, let's get real. They're dealing with the insurgency, the Iraqis have voted three times, they've organized a new government, Zarqawi is dead. And we have NOT been attacked here in the U.S. since 9-11. Not to mention the finding of those secret terrorist cells in Canada and recently in Florida... Why do the LIARS always get time on MTP? Even Russert told Feingold that he only got 13 frigging votes on the "cut and run" ammendment. Feingold said "those aren't American votes"... Someone needs to tell Feingold that THEY ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES! American people do not, perhaps Feingold doesn't know this, vote directly on legislative issues; we elect representatives to do that... Then Feingold says, hold my temper for me a minute, that 'the Democratic party IS the American people'. I am not making this up... I don't care if kooks have an opinion. But the kooks are getting waaaaaay more representation on MTP than they deserve. Sure MTP has to know they're not being fair and balanced with constantly having nuts on the show... Okay, I'm done."
Third Place - Morgan in Denver
Great posts again this week, including the priceless observation in #57 that the more these shows are dominated by the Democrat "spokesmen" the more they make our points for us, just by being themselves.
- #57, "... I do think days like today can turn out well. For example, Levin and Durbin will reaffirm their far-left credentials and with any luck Durbin will embarrass himself, again. Albright is always a great reminder of just how bad the Clinton administration really was... I am trying to stop thinking every one of these shows is going to automatically be bad because of the same old guests. Sometimes, they prove our point of how badly Democrats would be were they in charge of anything."
- #64, "It proves how far left the Democrats are today when they complain about the MSM being too conservative. Then, they use the Clinton scandals as the yardstick as they complain about how we can't let it go. LOL"
- #446, "FNS was its usual well done program this morning. Every guest and panelist performed as expected, with the exception of Warner who seemed worse than usual... Levin, wants it both ways. Cut & Run along with We Told You So. Tommy Frank said we would actively be in Iraq approximately 5 years, followed by a presence there of probably around ten more years. President Bush alluded to a similar timeline as the Iraqi government was established and the Iraqi police and military taking over duties the US military was doing. All of this is progressing along the lines set forth by President Bush, General Franks and statements by both the US military in Iraq and the new Iraqi government... Warner, poor representative even if he is the committee head. (The Peter Principle is alive and well.) ... Specter, said the Senate would not hold hearings based on one newspaper account. Sorry NY Times, youre not important enough to cause hearings... King: He wants to prosecute the NY Times. Sounds like bluster more than a serious, well thought out accusation. Immigration? Falls into line as opposed to amnesty and wants to protect borders. Wants hearings. Insists on secure borders first (YEA!) and crack down on employers (YEA!). King also admits he is poll driven. Not the preferred response from a responsible GOP representative... Brit Hume: Prosecuting the NY Times cant be prosecuted saying its 'just not possible.'... YEA! Brit: The future drawdown is exactly what has been said over and over, expected and anticipated. This in NOT news! Even Mara admitted the Democrats are only looking of political points. Of course, Juan Williams equates any movement to political timing; but Juans opinion is just Democrat talking points cover for whats going to happen anyway."
- #620, "The High Hopes song came to mind reading this... 'Oops, there goes another talking point rant...' ... (Wish I had a graphic. LOL)"
- #671, "The Democrats are totally invested in: President Bush failures, the military failures; economic failure and failure in Iraq and Afghanistan... IF the USA were to win any aspect of these responsibilities that government is responsible for, they lose. So, in order for them to be elected to run the country they must have failure to justify the public voting for them... I've said it before. If you were a country in trouble, who would you call? The UN? NATO? France? China? Russia? Or, the USA? ... If you are serious about winning militarily or economically, the USA is the only option that guarantees your winning. Only the USA, both economically and militarily, is proven to be capable and trustworthy enough to save you... That being said, I would include the UK and Australia to a large degree. Neither is interested in imperalism. Either would work unless the threat was larger than what they could handle. With the USA, I cannot imagine that limit."
- #680, "I agree with you. I saved the column below for this very reason. Few, other than Freepers and activists, will agree with the conclusion but I believe it. History will be the final judge but every indication seems to point to this ultimately being true. ... George W. Bush -- grand strategist ... By Tony Blankley ... THE WASHINGTON TIMES ... Published February 11, 2004 ... The Boston Globe -- the respected, liberal newspaper owned by the New York Times -- ran an article last week that Bush critics may wish to read carefully. It is a report on a new book that argues that President Bush has developed and is ably implementing only the third American grand strategy in our history.... " (long article, but great - read the whole thing)
Second Place - Alas Babylon!
AB! doesn't usually participate as much in the thread as he did this week, and these highlights of his posts should give you an idea of how on fire he was. Plus, he coined the phrase "the Jedi Council of FreeRepublic!" That's a keeper!
- #38, "... Let's also consider who is on these shows, and what it says about their agenda, both the guest and the show host/producer..." (Excellent analysis AB! - There's lot's more, read the whole thing)
- #291, "... MATT COOPER WAS FIRED!!! SING IT! MR. MANDY GRUNWALD (Hillary's COS) IS CANNED! MATT LIED, LIBBY TRIED!"
- #302, "You know Peach, as a retired military person, I'd actually agree to give the insurgents amnesty if they'd lay down their arms and surrender... Our military has always graciously accepted the surrender of its enemies at hostilities end. War crimes trials and (pre-hostilities cease fire) calls for unconditional surrender, IMHO, just serve to harden the enemies resistance and prolong the fighting to no good end. Yes, some enemies need to be beat into the mud, but even then, once they surrender we can do that sort of thing as required... All the finger pointing and such can be sorted out after the surrender. Part of the terms, when they approach with their white flag, is, of course, used to get those accused of the more heinous crimes into our hands for "processing" later. There's no need to show our hand in any case until we play it out."
- #306, "Snugs, Whitehouse.com wasn't much different than Whitehouse.gov during the period Jan. 1993-Jan. 2001... Same smut, different top-level domain."
- #319, "See my post # 38. The producers and hosts of the shows DO NOT want real conservatives on their shows. They have an agenda, Bulldaddy, and Sessions (my great Senator!), Cornyn, Santorum, etc, etc, do not help that agenda... I've been posting this thread every Sunday since 1999, and it's been this way since then. The drive-by media use the Sunday shows not to inform the nation as to what's going on, but to define the issues they want the way they want them defined... Our thread is our challenge to them. They've been figured out. Pray that we'll have an impact with the public at large, God willing."
- #529, "... Y'all are like the Jedi Council of Free Republic."
First Place - anita
Always insightful and valuable posts, but this week anita added two potentially explosive bits of information. The first might link Democrat (Kerry) members of Republican Senator Chuck Hagel's staff to the treasonous leaks to the New York Times about the NSA and SWIFT programs. These leaks are designed to thwart President Bush's attempts to protect the American people and they appear to have been made for purely political purposes. Will Hagel's ambitions endanger our country, in fact all of human civilization? This is important, folks. Also, this weeks "media nuggets" post, which is always one of the Sunday thread highlights, has a very significant tidbit about Matt Cooper, the main accuser of "Scooter" Libby. It concerns the apparent collapse of his credibility, which not only appears to have lead to the dismissal of any possible charges against Karl Rove but should also lead to the dismissal of charges against Libby. This is an important week for anita, FR and the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread. Remember these posts, folks. This may be a "Buckhead" moment.
- #39, "... Nowadays, the requirement to be a guest on MTP is to have an anti-war position. Feingold meets that ofcourse, but Political Pundit Larry Sabato said that .. Feingold can't win dem.primary. ... Will Russert ask him about that?"
- #45, "Did you say Hagel? Is Chuck Hagel really a republican?" (link is to an article in NRO by Byron York titled: The Kerry Campaigner on the Republican Staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee ... It's real and the staffer works for Hagel.)
- #118, "This sunday's Media Nuggets..." (especially good ones this week)
- #523, great picture of Madeline Albright toasting Kim Jung Il (with a simpering grin on her face)
762 posted on
06/28/2006 1:10:01 PM PDT by
Phsstpok
(Often wrong, but never in doubt)
To: Phsstpok
Many thanks, Phsstpok, for the massive amount of work you've done....you're a jewel.
To: Phsstpok
You are the greatest. FR is the greatest.
Danke!
764 posted on
06/28/2006 1:16:22 PM PDT by
beyond the sea
(Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
To: Phsstpok
Wow! Thanks for all the compiling and sorting...this is a terrific reference.
Great job:)
765 posted on
06/28/2006 2:15:04 PM PDT by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: Phsstpok
Great job phsstpok, lots of really hard work there.
Thanks you so much for # 5, really could not post too much last Sunday had to work. It's a pleasure to be in such company as fishtalk, morgan, anita and AB, a brilliant crowd for sure.
Congrats to all who participated in yet another stellar thread.
766 posted on
06/28/2006 3:19:07 PM PDT by
rodguy911
(Support new Media, ticket drive-bys--America--Land of the Free because of the Brave)
To: Phsstpok
Phsstpok,
First, congratulations to anita. Great Sunday posts!
Phsstpok, thank you for all the work you did on this. It truly is above and beyond what I believe the exercise was all about. And, thank you for third place. I'm not sure I deserve it because of all the great posts this past week, but thank you.
As for your efforts, or who "wins" the week.
I don't look at it as a contest as much as who made the best points related to the topics from the Sunday programs and who provided all of us with information we will be able to use in the future in discussion with friends and foes.
Most people on FR are activists, if not directly, certainly on-line and with the people they know. Every poster has experiences and insight that others don't have and can be shared to benefit all of us. As I've told others I've conversed with, there isn't a week that goes by that I don't learn something that serves me well in the future. Past lurking shows me the people who are active on the Sunday thread are more so. There's no way to mention all the names because I'm sure I would miss someone but I believe one reason many of us lurk or post on the Sunday thread is because we want to contribute and Alas Babylon! has been kind enough and conscientious enough to post it every week.
Choosing a winning post is subjective on the part of the person who is following them. The winner is not a buddy system or based on anything totally objective. As a result, different readers will come to different conclusions. It's not that important, and just meant to be in fun for all of us.
My comments are only meant to say Thank You, to you and Rodguy911 as well as MNJohnnie and the others who have been doing the judging and following the thread so closely. And, to support you if anyone questions what is going on or how it's being done.
Morgan
To: Phsstpok
Great work will post top 3 certs tomorrow
771 posted on
06/28/2006 8:06:31 PM PDT by
snugs
((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
To: Phsstpok; Morgan in Denver; Alas Babylon!; anita
Apologies for delay in posting
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772 posted on
07/01/2006 5:04:27 PM PDT by
snugs
((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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