Posted on 06/24/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by radar101
RANCHO BERNARDO Developer Ron Bamberger doesn't deny stepping into a Hooters once or twice. Even though he didn't really like the food, that's not the reason he thinks it's a bad idea for the company to open a restaurant in the area.
We're in a high-end, award-winning master-planned community, and Hooters is not consistent with the culture, he said.
Bamberger is president of Boardwalk Development, which among other ventures manages the shopping center on Bernardo Center Drive that houses Vons and other stores.
He said that for the good of the community where he does business, he's spearheading what he calls a grass-roots campaign against Hooters that includes residents and other businesses. Bamberger also is president of the Bernardo Town Center Property Owners Association.
Hooters goes against the family values in the community, he said.
Opponents will soon post signs around Rancho Bernardo that purportedly quote from a Hooters employee handbook: The essence of the Hooters concept is entertainment through female sex appeal, of which the look is a key part. The rest of the sign reads, RB Says No to Hooters.
Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license.
Hooters is known for waitresses in form-fitting shorts and tops delivering hot wings and burgers. Its name is slang for female breasts.
Fred Glick, president of Hoot Winc LLC, the partnership that owns and operates 24 other Hooters around the country, including one in Oceanside, said he's not worried about the opposition.
While a small, vocal minority of the population may voice their concerns before we open new locations, those concerns are unfounded and quickly disappear once residents visit the eatery, Glick said.
He added that Bamberger is mischaracterizing Hooters as a tawdry strip joint. Instead, he said, it's a restaurant that's casual and fun. It sells beer and wine only, Glick said, adding that up to $2 million would be spent to retrofit the abandoned, 6,300-square-foot-building that Hooters is scheduled to lease near Interstate 15 and Rancho Bernardo Road.
Still, more than 100 people packed a recent Rancho Bernardo Planning Board meeting to protest the restaurant. Councilman Brian Maienschein opposes it, too. But both the Planning Board and the Rancho Bernardo Community Council declined to take a position because they also heard from residents or businesses that support it.
The extra media attention generated by Bamberger's efforts may actually drive up business, Glick said, adding, Now they have a reason to see what the fuss is all about.
Glick said Bamberger may be opposed to Hooters because it would be next door to Bamberger's development company. Bamberger lost a bid to buy the property for his own expansion efforts, Glick said.
Bamberger said he tried to buy the property three years ago, but that his opposition has absolutely nothing to do with that. Hooters simply doesn't fit Rancho Bernardo, he said.
I would welcome any other business, Bamberger said.
Elena Gaona: (760) 737-7575; elena.gaona@uniontrib.com
oh, now that I've re-read it, I can see the sarcasm, very funny BTW. Shalom to you and thanks for the support!
Tampa
So she doesn't expose her wrists or ankles? 'Tasteful and reasonably modest' are subjective. I have to admit to not being fearful of, or disgusted by the female form.
Yes, they are. And reasonable people can discuss them without hyperbole. You don't have to decide between wearing bikinis on the street and wearing bhurkas. When you toss out the bhurkas I don't believe you honestly want to discuss the subject.
I have to admit to not being fearful of, or disgusted by the female form.
Are you speaking as an admirer or a father? I am both. I am not fearful of nor disgusted by the female form. However, I do think there is a world of good to be done by practicing modesty. I have taught my daughter so. I have not noticed that she lacks for male attention. In fact, she often gets more attention than more scantily clad women.
Shalom.
Hyperbole? In the U.S. women were arrested for immodestly displaying their legs and arms at the beaches. It's isn't hyperbole to point out the range of 'modesty' in this world today. I seek only to confine your definition and exerice of modesty to yourself and your family, and to let others make their own call on that subject.
Yes, but unless you're suggesting my daughter is VERY old, she and I haven't been through that.
I seek only to confine your definition and exerice of modesty to yourself and your family, and to let others make their own call on that subject.
I might seek to pursuade others, but that is all. Do you have any evidence that anyone is trying to change the laws on decency? If you look you will find it isn't conservative Christians who try to change the culture by forcing laws on people, it's liberals.
Shalom.
Did you read the article?
"Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license."
Who's running to the government to force people to do what they want...
You and me both. My office went there for lunch one day (just to say we did, I think) and the food was . . . so so, the waitress was a nice girl, but emphasize girl and not really ready for a 10 top table.
The only really good thing I found about it was that they had fried pickles!
Otherwise, too loud, mediocre food, slow service and I hate wings. LOL
I wonder how many people filled bamburger's bank account to be told where they can and cannot eat.
Yes.
"Besides signs, residents are collecting signatures and statements outside Vons, Bamberger said. They plan to send the dozens of statements of opposition to San Diego city officials in charge of approving a restaurant's permit to operate, and to the state Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that would approve its liquor license."
Well, first of all, I don't see any thing in this paragraph that suggests a desire to change laws respecting proper modest dress. Second of all, I didn't think gathering petitions in a grass-roots effort to establish a zoning regulation was anything like trying to force anything down the people's throat. I thought it was the people using their voices to hold their standards. You seem to be mixing apples and Chevrolets, here.
Shalom.
'Establish a zoning regulation' is a cute way of saying 'use the government to force people to do what you want'. You claimed the people trying to restrict others weren't leaning on the law to accomplish their ends. I pointed out you were wrong, quit fiddling with the goalposts...
I must be way behind in my SP!! That is HILARIOUS!!!
I agree, but you might want to reverse the sequence ;)
All laws are about people trying to restrict others. I said nobody was trying to change modesty laws. I did make a statement trying to distinguish between using a petition to change the law vs. say, getting a judge to do it, but it was off the modesty topic. I apologize for confusing you.
Shalom.
What you should apologize for is being mendacious.
"I wonder if the MSM and the other slimes will ever understand that "liberal" is slang for treasonous, anti-American, Islamofascism and commie/leftist/socialist appeasing, intolerant fascist oppression?
Or is it just me that thinks that?"
And this has what to do with the topic?
If I cared enough about you to lie to you, I would.
Shalom.
So THAT"S how my wife made the money to buy my new golf clubs.
Thanks, Honey.
Lie? No, just disengenuous in your assertion that the 'decency' advocates aren't trying to use the law to compel their standards. But keep mincing, it's cute.
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