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Fox Makes Up News, NY Times Editor Says
Newsmax.com ^ | June 23, 2006 | Carl Limbaugh

Posted on 06/23/2006 12:24:46 PM PDT by Paul Ross

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Friday, June 23, 2006 12:32 a.m. EDT

Fox Makes Up News, NY Times Editor Says

Former New York Times Executive Editor Howell Raines has leveled a shocking charge against Fox News: The leading cable news network makes up its stories.

In his new autobiography "The One That Got Away,” Raines – who, ironically, resigned over made-up stories at the Times – writes:

"Fox, by its mere existence, undercuts the argument that the public is starved for ‘fair’ news, and not just because Fox shills for the Republican Party and panders to the latest of America’s periodic religious manias. The key to understanding Fox News is to grasp the anomalous fact that its consumers know its ‘news’ is made up.

"It matters not when critics point this out to Foxite consumers because they’ve understood it from the outset. That’s why they’re there.”

Further on in the book he attacks Fox again:

"Fox Television showed us the future - outright lies and paranoid opinions packaged as news under the oversight of Rupert [Murdoch], a flagrant pirate, and Roger Ailes, an unprincipled Nixon thug.”

After the conservative Web site Newsbusters ran several excerpts from Raines’ book, one e-mailer wrote:

"Fox may have a conservative slant but it is usually quite clear when they go from straight reporter mode to giving their own two bits worth.”

Another e-mail says: "I guess if there’s anyone who should recognize ‘made-up’ news when he sees it, it would be Howell Raines.”

Raines was executive editor at the Times when the Jayson Blair scandal erupted in 2003. Blair, it was revealed, had fabricated stories, inventing quotes and even entire interviews. Raines resigned about a month later, after less than two years at the job.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defamers; fifthcolumnists; liars; nyt; slanderers; traitors; treasontimes
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To: thoughtomator

For being generally humorless folks, liberals say some pretty funny stuff.


41 posted on 06/23/2006 1:09:11 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Paul Ross

As he spoke, Howell Raines choked up. Standing on his porch overlooking the tobacco fields and cattle pastures.


42 posted on 06/23/2006 1:09:35 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: AntiGovernment
Only Fox's commentary is heavily conservative,

There's the problem. To a lib commentary and the truthful reporting are one in the same. "I feel that this is the way things are/should be, therefore that's the way they are/should be."

43 posted on 06/23/2006 1:09:38 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Paul Ross

This is Scrapple Face right? No way that Raines and the NY Times want to even use those words and remind people of their legacy.

It would be like Bubba accusing Dubya of having more than just pizza delivered to the oval office.


44 posted on 06/23/2006 1:11:05 PM PDT by rod1
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To: Paul Ross

Just another ham-fisted attempt to keep the benighted "brainier-than-thou" folks away from FoxNews.


45 posted on 06/23/2006 1:11:16 PM PDT by syriacus (It takes only one word from a Democrat, to make tainted blood and lethal chemicals A-OK)
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To: Redleg Duke

Exactly.


46 posted on 06/23/2006 1:11:34 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Paul Ross

Times Admits To Lying About Abu Ghraib Prisoner | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/times-admits-to-lying-about-abu-ghraib-prisoner

About That Times “Missile” Photo Caption | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/about-that-times-missile-photo-caption

The New York Times Lies Again | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/the-new-york-times-lies-again


47 posted on 06/23/2006 1:14:27 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: TaxRelief
I don't suppose he gave any specific examples?

Of course not! 

48 posted on 06/23/2006 1:15:11 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Redleg Duke
As usual, the Socialist accuse their opponents of the very thing that they committ!

That they do. It's meant to be a preemptive offense tactic, putting the other party automatically on the defensive.

It's also very transparent AND it's losing it's effectiveness because it's been overused.

49 posted on 06/23/2006 1:16:58 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I support the troops and the mission.)
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To: Paul Ross

Howlin' Howell Raines should have a keen ear for that sort of fraudulent news reporting, one would think.

Not to say that Fox does or does not "make up" news reports. It is just that the estimable Mr. Raines is not necessarily the best messenger to deliver this bit of news.

After all, he does have something of a credibility problem.


50 posted on 06/23/2006 1:25:29 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Paul Ross

Holy Projection, Batman, where did that comment come from?


51 posted on 06/23/2006 1:32:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: Paul Ross

Last night, John Gibson of FOX, recited a list of "made-up news" that the Gray Lady (our motto: "All the news that fits we print") has printed in the last few years. The Times is not worthy of my parakeet's cage.


52 posted on 06/23/2006 1:36:09 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: RandallFlagg

LOL!!!


53 posted on 06/23/2006 1:37:01 PM PDT by exdem2000
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To: frogjerk
Fox News Corporation last three years:

New York Times last three years:


54 posted on 06/23/2006 1:37:21 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Paul Ross
Fox Makes Up News, NY Times Editor Says
If so, it's a shocking charge. However, in additon to the fact that from this source it's mere "pot calling kettle black" stuff, the salient point to me is that "half the truth can be a very big lie."

The "If it bleeds it leads," "man bites dog" criteria for journalism are not remotely politicaly neutral. They are in fact actually radical. They lead directly to the coverage we see of Iraq, consisting of nothing but bad news. We get the same sort of coverage of our own country from the same people, but since we are in America and not in Iraq we are far more tempted to assume that the news from Iraq actually represents Iraqi reality than we are to assume that people in America are generally cowering in corners just because somewhere in America someone was murdered yesterday.

So even if Mr. Raines were able to document that Fox News actually made up a story once, the driveby media are not thereby exonerated of leftwing bias. It oozes from their every pore.


55 posted on 06/23/2006 1:39:44 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Paul Ross

Kind of late for Mr. Raines to throw a hissy fit over getting canned, isn't it?


56 posted on 06/23/2006 1:43:35 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Paul Ross
Fox shills for the Republican Party and panders to the latest of America’s periodic religious manias.

Ya know! I have been listening to Alan Colms, Jeraldo Riviera, Greta VanSustern, Juan Williams, Mara Liason, and others on FOX News and have noticed that they ARE shilling for the Republicans? Maybe it's time to clean house at FOX to get rid of these right leaning reporters????

57 posted on 06/23/2006 1:51:17 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: Paul Ross

Being called a partisan shill by Howell Raines is akin to being called ugly by a toad.


58 posted on 06/23/2006 1:58:51 PM PDT by Columbusborn
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To: Paul Ross

The same new york slimes that gives classified info out to the public no matter how much it hurts the troops, the pres and the war we are in. The same outhouse paper that that wrote during ww 2, we should not hurt hitler no matter what he did to people.Hitler never attacked us, right? You know what you can do with the new york slimes , use it where the sun just don't shine!


59 posted on 06/23/2006 2:07:36 PM PDT by betsyross1776
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To: eeriegeno

Agreed and also the Ass Press needs to be sent over to its leftist buddies at nyslimes. I am very fed up with Fox claiming to be fair and balanced when only the most unavoidably obvious good news gets a brief report and the rest is garbage.


60 posted on 06/23/2006 2:16:25 PM PDT by righteousindignation
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