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Study Says Earth's Temp at 400-Year High(DOOMED!!!!)
breitbart.com ^ | June 22, 2006 | JOHN HEILPRIN

Posted on 06/22/2006 8:28:41 AM PDT by Semus Dynnen

Study Says Earth's Temp at 400-Year High Jun 22 11:10 AM US/Eastern

By JOHN HEILPRIN Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

The Earth is the hottest it has been in at least 400 years, probably even longer. The National Academy of Sciences, reaching that conclusion in a broad review of scientific work requested by Congress, reported Thursday that the "recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400 years and potentially the last several millennia."

A panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is running a fever and that "human activities are responsible for much of the recent warming." Their 155-page report said average global surface temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the 20th century.

The report was requested in November by the chairman of the House Science Committee, Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., to address naysayers who question whether global warming is a major threat.

Last year, when the House Energy and Commerce Committee chairman, Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, launched an investigation of three climate scientists, Boehlert said Barton should try to learn from scientists, not intimidate them.

The Bush administration also has maintained that the threat is not severe enough to warrant new pollution controls that the White House says would have cost 5 million Americans their jobs.

Climate scientists Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes had concluded the Northern Hemisphere was the warmest it has been in 2,000 years. Their research was known as the "hockey-stick" graphic because it compared the sharp curve of the hockey blade to the recent uptick in temperatures and the stick's long shaft to centuries of previous climate stability.

The National Academy scientists concluded that the Mann-Bradley-Hughes research from the late 1990s was "likely" to be true, said John "Mike" Wallace, an atmospheric sciences professor at the University of Washington and a panel member. The conclusions from the '90s research "are very close to being right" and are supported by even more recent data, Wallace said.

The panel looked at how other scientists reconstructed the Earth's temperatures going back thousands of years, before there was data from modern scientific instruments.

For all but the most recent 150 years, the academy scientists relied on "proxy" evidence from tree rings, corals, glaciers and ice cores, cave deposits, ocean and lake sediments, boreholes and other sources. They also examined indirect records such as paintings of glaciers in the Alps.

Combining that information gave the panel "a high level of confidence that the last few decades of the 20th century were warmer than any comparable period in the last 400 years," the academy said.

Overall, the panel agreed that the warming in the last few decades of the 20th century was unprecedented over the last 1,000 years, though relatively warm conditions persisted around the year 1000, followed by a "Little Ice Age" from about 1500 to 1850.

The scientists said they had less confidence in the evidence of temperatures before 1600. But they considered it reliable enough to conclude there were sharp spikes in carbon dioxide and methane, the two major "greenhouse" gases blamed for trapping heat in the atmosphere, beginning in the 20th century, after remaining fairly level for 12,000 years.

Between 1 A.D. and 1850, volcanic eruptions and solar fluctuations were the main causes of changes in greenhouse gas levels. But those temperature changes "were much less pronounced than the warming due to greenhouse gas" levels by pollution since the mid-19th century, it said.

The National Academy of Sciences is a private organization chartered by Congress to advise the government of scientific matters.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushsfault; climatechange; gettinghotinhere; miamiheatwontoo
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To: Semus Dynnen

Let's cap all volcanos worldwide and see if that reverses the trend. Just a thought.

Those who would seek to depopulate the earth might just find they are barking up the wrong tree.

Thanks for posting this and not excerpting.


101 posted on 06/22/2006 12:34:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
But what you quoted sited an increase in solar radiation and temperature.

You asked: And what exactly caused the lack of heat from sunlight for the entire period of the Little Ice Age?

And I answered: Reduced solar activity, indicated by lack of sunspots.

Increased solar radiation and increasing temperature occurred near the end of the LIA, which, (unfortunately for figuring out exactly how much warming has been caused by what), occurred about the same time as the dawn of the Industrial Age. The key point is that increased solar radiation, i.e., an establishment of the average "modern" solar activity level, occurred in the first half of the 20th century.

102 posted on 06/22/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: hadit2here
What does the lag of CO2 behind temperature in ice cores tell us about global warming?

Global warming on Mars?

103 posted on 06/22/2006 1:17:04 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Read post 85 before concluding I'm reddish-purple in color

I read all your posts on this thread. Usually, I try to offer some constructive input and information when I notice that someone is providing erroneous or fraudulent information in the guise of "facts", but when someone works so hard through so many posts to exhibit their abysmal stupidity and complete obtuseness to any contrary information, it becomes a waste of time for anyone to try to offer facts and guidance to "educate" said asshat. You have shown that, while professing to be so literate and educated, you are in fact so completely stupid about the subject which you profess to "enlighten" others. Almost all of your fraudulent Krap™ that you are spewing here comes from realclimate.org, whose main contributors are Schmidt and Mann, et. al. Obviously, they would have all kinds of technically couched "explanations" and rationalizations for why their work isn't the false premised junk science it has been proven to be. It is obvious that you've fallen for their line, and parrot what you've read on their website so everyone will think you are an educated climate scientist or similar. The only thing you do is show your abysmal stupidity and gullibility. Remember, ignorance can be cured with education, stupidity is forever. You are the worst- terminally stupid play acting like you're educated.

Oh, and any website that is cited by the Daily Kos as experts on global warming and to "discuss that disturbing reality free of political spin. This is real data, these are real researchers: This is REALCLIMATE", will probably not get a lot of traction on a website like FR. Most here aren't as easily duped and gullible as you.

Now if you really want some factual information on climate and global warming, let the people here on this thread know and they will be happy to provide you with dozens of links that provide not only factual information, but show realclimate.org for what it is - propaganda for the DNC, human caused global warming, and the leftist agenda. But I'm sure you will prefer to drink the left's kool-aid and won't look any further than your holy realclimate.org apologists.

Like I said, what a maroon.

104 posted on 06/22/2006 1:17:50 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: hadit2here

Further discussion with you is clearly impossible.


105 posted on 06/22/2006 1:20:16 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
I'm reading your posts and trying to figure out where you're coming from. You seem to believe in "Global warming" and that humans may be causing part of it. Most folks that believe this have an economic dog in the hunt so I'm just asking:

"the prospects for cellulosic ethanol"

Do you have any economic interests in "Cellulosic Ethanol"?
106 posted on 06/22/2006 1:20:45 PM PDT by saleman
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To: Semus Dynnen

Who knew we had SUVs 400 years ago?


107 posted on 06/22/2006 1:32:22 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: saleman
Do you have any economic interests in "Cellulosic Ethanol"?

Not in the slightest. But I think that our economy will benefit from increased use of alternate fuels, and the climate will too, so for that reason I have an economic interest. But no investments in related corporations or business prospects or anything like that.

I believe that human activities are implicated in the current global warming trend because I think that's what the scientific data and analyses indicate.

108 posted on 06/22/2006 1:42:32 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Semus Dynnen
the academy scientists relied on "proxy" evidence from tree rings, corals, glaciers and ice cores, cave deposits, ocean and lake sediments, boreholes and other sources. They also examined indirect records such as paintings of glaciers in the Alps.

Jeez, sounds like Druid science: "they relied on proxy evidence such as Goat entrails, celestial alignment, dried leaf distribution..." whatever happened to hard science?

109 posted on 06/22/2006 1:53:06 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Blueflag

A very good point. This prejudice has not been brought up in any public global climate discussions.

"Mr. Gore, would you feel the same way if the earth were cooling in recent years? Or is it true that you only worry about the warmer, more sweaty, more SPICY, more "ethnic" temperatures??"


110 posted on 06/22/2006 1:55:47 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: cogitator

It appears that Karl Turekian has performed outstanding research on minute aspects of our environment (such as The 222Rn and radium isotopes measured in groundwaters, cosmic dust flux to Earth, salinity of coastal waters, planetary degassing and Oxygen isotope signatures preserved in seawater)of our complex environment. He has also taught global environmental change; I would be curious to see his curriculum for that course.

However, my comment stands if he supported the questionable report. People at his level sometimes are too busy to pay attention to the essence of a document or report that they have trusted their associates to produce.

IMO there has yet to be a comprehensive systems analysis of the effects of climate change. To be complete the anaylsis would include the assumptions, methodology, and data used, stated in plain English for readers to judge for themselves.


111 posted on 06/22/2006 3:22:36 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Semus Dynnen
The Earth is the hottest it has been in at least 400 years, probably even longer.

Considering that the period encompassing 1600 to 1850 (250 years) was called the "Little Ice Age" it might be true.

Of course to take one small segment of temperatures and compare it against the whole average for a longer period of time that doesn't contain the small segment may be statistical sophistry.

112 posted on 06/22/2006 4:19:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: Semus Dynnen

UPdate!!!

Earth Hottest It's Been in 2,000 Years
Jun 22 9:14 PM US/Eastern
Email this story

By JOHN HEILPRIN
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON


The Earth is running a slight fever from greenhouse gases, after enjoying relatively stable temperatures for 2,000 years. The National Academy of Sciences, after reconstructing global average surface temperatures for the past two millennia, said Thursday the data are "additional supporting evidence ... that human activities are responsible for much of the recent warming."



http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/22/D8IDK16G0.html


113 posted on 06/22/2006 9:36:05 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Semus Dynnen
Study Says Earth's Temp at 400-Year High

If true, it means that it's been this hot before. How in the heck do they STILL come to the conclusion that it is caused by humans?

It's a rhetorical question -- I already know the answer, believe me. The headline alone destroys the argument they have been putting forth.

114 posted on 06/23/2006 6:12:05 AM PDT by scott7278 (The War on Terror includes defending the homefront from the MSM.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Personally I think capping the volcanoes would be counterproductive. It's all the cleaning of the air that has gone on for years, it allows the sun's rays to heat the earth more, as the rays aren't stopped by the debris in the air. Yep, we are causing global warming by not using wood stoves and other items that put particulates into the air. I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
115 posted on 06/23/2006 6:29:28 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Semus Dynnen

Click!

116 posted on 06/23/2006 6:33:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Semus Dynnen

They still sell heaters here in So cal. Not used most of year though.


117 posted on 06/23/2006 6:37:34 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: Semus Dynnen

118 posted on 06/23/2006 6:39:31 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: olezip
IMO there has yet to be a comprehensive systems analysis of the effects of climate change. To be complete the anaylsis would include the assumptions, methodology, and data used, stated in plain English for readers to judge for themselves.

There was such a report covering the United States; it's been quashed for political reasons.

119 posted on 06/23/2006 7:12:23 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator; hadit2here
Take your links of the propaganda known as realclimate.org and get it off this thread.

http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2005/02/is-realclimate-part-of-reality-based.html

http://www.envirotruth.org/myth7.cfm
120 posted on 06/23/2006 7:37:02 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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