Posted on 06/21/2006 6:59:15 PM PDT by Wombat101
I've been watching the liberal talking heads on several shows this evening spin the discovery of 500 Chemical warheads in Iraq.
I have but one word to describe it:
INSANITY
The 'talking points' (which are transparent, and understandably so; democrats (small 'd' intentional) have only had a few hours to react to Rick Santorum's news conference) being trotted out to degrade the "Bush was right about WMD's" argument, revolve around three points;
1. These are not the WMD's we went to war for
2. These WMD's are too old to be a danger to anyone
Idiocy, plain and simple.
To take the first...ahem...argument; if these "aren't the WMD's we went to war for" then just which one's would you need to find to justify the war in the first place? A WMD is a WMD, is it not? On a certain level, this defense seems to imply two things; democrats knew these weapons would be found, in which case they would simply deny, deny, deny, and secondly, it implies there is another batch of WMD's out there; Laura Schwartz just implied it on Hannity and Colmes.
Which leads to the question; if there's another batch of WMD's (you said these aren't "the ones"), then where are the others? And aren't you the people who said that none existed in the first place? We have now gone from arguing that none exist, to finding definitive proof that they did, to using "yeah, but there are more" as a counter-argument.
On the second argument that the weapons are too old; having handled explosives and weapons a great deal in my lifetime, I have always had a great deal of respect for the destructive power of such things. You always treat any weapon as if it were live or loaded, and age doesn't mean a damned thing.
As a matter of personal experience, I remember when I was stationed at Subic Bay in the Philipines. Construction on the base was a frequent occurance, and occasionally, construction and maintenance crews came upon unexploded ordnance from past wars. I remember, vividly, one day when a construction crew came across a buried naval artillery shell, which we later learned was a leftover from the Spanish-American War. This was in 1987, so, the shell had been buried for nearly 90 years.
Guess what?
When the EOD people came to remove it (they actually blew it up in place) not only did the explosives THEY used go up, so did the shell's. A 90 year old shell was able to explode, sure with a little help, but explode it did.
In this day and age, landmines are a cause celebre. Millions of them remian hidden and buried all over the world and thousands are injured and maimed by them annually, the vast majority in Southeast Asia. If I recall, the Vietnam War ended in 1975. The war in Cambodia and Laos went on a decade more, yet almost every day, reports come in of children being injured ny landmines left over from that conflict.
So,if 90 year old naval shells can go "BOOM" and 40 year old landmines can do likewise, what makes you think a sarin-filled artillery round buried in the sand of Mesopotamia can't?
Yes, a chemical weapon works on different prinicples, and unlike some conventional explosives, are far less stable and susceptible to the ravages of time and enviornment. But, to dismiss the possibility that even "old" sarin or mustard gas shells are "harmless" is incredibly stupid. To insist upon it for political purposes is CRIMINAL STUPIDITY.
This sort of stupidity is not wholly an affectation adopted for political purposes, either. There is a strange, inverted dialectic to it, as well. So, while 500 WMD artillery shells in the hands of Saddam Hussein (and potentially, terrorists) is "no big deal", 500 S&W revolvers in the hands of private citizens, with licenses, is. One is no big deal, the other is a "crisis" and a "tragedy" and a "threat to our children's safety".
I say we ask John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy to personally go to Iraq and help destroy these shells with their bare hands, and Mrs. Clinton with her fangs.
was it Santorim - or ? - on the H & C show tonight that mentioned it only took 5 of these kind of weapons to kill 5,000 Kurds?
Ping.
Exactly.
it's like spitting in the wind or, as my Grampa used to say, getting into a pis*ing contest with a skunk.
You simply let them know YOU know they are stinking skunks, with a stripe down their backs, and walk away.
Some liberal crudbucket was on the radio this morning saying that "more people are dying in Iraq now than under Saddam." Sounds like bull hockey to me. Anybody know?
and he got pretty much ignored, even by Hannity.
My question has always been why don't we show the satellite photos - that Colin Powell showed at the UN - of the truck convoys leaving Iraq into Syria, along with this other evidence on this?
That was Rep. Hoekstra (I think that's how you spell it).
'"how many would be enough for you to admit that Bush was right?" That's a deadly question...'
The Lib response will be was it worth going to war over that number of older warheads?
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