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Evolution: World science academies fight back against creationists
PhysOrg.com ^ | 21 June 2006 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

In a veiled attack on creationism, the world's foremost academies of science on Wednesday called on parents and teachers to provide children with the facts about evolution and the origins of life on Earth.

A declaration signed by 67 national academies of science blasted the scriptural teaching of biology as a potential distortion of young minds.

"In various parts of the world, within science courses taught in certain public systems of education, scientific evidence, data and testable theories about the origins and evolution of life on Earth are being concealed, denied or confused with theories not testable by science," the declaration said.

"We urge decision-makers, teachers and parents to educate all children about the methods and discoveries of science and to foster an understanding of the science of nature.

"Knowledge of the natural world in which they live empowers people to meet human needs and protect the planet."

Citing "evidence-based facts" derived from observation, experiment and neutral assessment, the declaration points to findings that the Universe is between 11 and 15 billion years old, and the Earth was formed about 4.5 billion years ago.

Life on Earth appeared at least 2.5 billion years ago as a result of physical and chemical processes, and evolved into the species that live today.

"Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin," it said.

Signatories of the declaration include the US National Academy of Sciences, Britain's Royal Society, the French Academy of Sciences and their counterparts in Canada, China, Germany, Iran, Israel and Japan and elsewhere.
The statement does not name any names or religions, nor does it explain why it fears the teaching of evolution or the scientific explanation for the origins of planetary life are being sidelined.

It comes, however, in the context of mounting concern among biologists about the perceived influence of creationism in the United States.

Evangelical Christians there are campaigning hard for schools to teach creationism or downgrade evolution to the status of one of a competing group of theories about the origins of life on Earth.

According to the website Christian Post (www.christianpost.com), an opinion poll conducted in May by Gallop found that 46 percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years or so.

Scientists say hominids emerged around six million years ago and one of their offshoots developed into anatomically modern man, Homo sapiens, about 200,000 years ago, although the timings of both events are fiercely debated.

Nearly every religion offers an explanation as to how life began on Earth.

Fundamentalist Christians insist on a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis in the Bible, in which God made the world in seven days, culminating in the creation of the first two humans, Adam and Eve.

A variation of this is called "intelligent design" which acknowledges evolution but claims that genetic mutations are guided by God's hand rather than by Charles Darwin's process of natural selection.

US President George W. Bush said last August that he believed in this concept and that he supported its teaching in American schools.

The academies' statement says that science does not seek to offer judgements of value or morality, and acknowledges limitations in current knowledge.

"Science is open-ended and subject to correction and expansion as new theoretical and empirical understanding emerges," it adds.


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To: ml1954
What bliss will fill the ransomed souls,
When they in glory dwell,
To see the sinner as he rolls,
In quenchless flames of hell.

- Isaac Watts

441 posted on 06/21/2006 8:21:52 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry
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My new twin granddaughters, born just nine hours ago.

There is more to life, Mssrs. Darwin and Dawkins, than your cramped and bigoted faith claims can begin to refute or deny. Though you be willfully deaf and blind, the greater and best part of life looks through your benighted souls and sings powerfully and wonderfully with the voice of an angel.

442 posted on 06/21/2006 8:26:30 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: grey_whiskers; One_who_hopes_to_know

GW - I remember the thread. The culture was grown in a continuous culture - turbidostat, IIRC and you got the general gist. I couldn't find a post of mine in such a thread, but I may have been just lurking. This was not speciation, though, but a great example of the rapidity of adaptation by microbes that could very well be a first step in speciation.

The Nylon Bug thing is quite different. It is actually a misnomer since the bug doesn't really eat nylon, but small "nylon-mers". It was from a group of Japanese researchers and the enzyme was probably recruited from another function, because IIRC it had a very high Km, showing very poor affinity for the nylon oligomers. But this showed how a new function can be derived from a protein that has quite a different function. For more on recruitment see the old papers of E.C.C. Lin on enzyme recruitment - classics in the development of new capabilities from old genetic information.


443 posted on 06/21/2006 8:31:14 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: xzins
I have said that I remember from the textbooks I was taught from in the 60's that the "Protein sea" and "a bolt of lightning" were Step 11 and step 12.

Perhaps you had a Biology textbook which covered more than just evolution. You know, like steps 1 through n...

444 posted on 06/21/2006 9:03:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: Obadiah
I just hope that their realization happens on this side of their breath.

No kidding. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a vengeful god!
445 posted on 06/21/2006 9:12:36 PM PDT by BJClinton (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: MineralMan
He clapped his hands together, and there was light. It was groovy. He clapped his hands together twice, and there was darkness. That was groovy, too.

Why are you wasting your writing talent on crevo threads?

You could get rich writing marketing copy for the Clapper for regional ads in California; or re-writing the Bible for liberal denominations such as the Episcopals.

Cheers!

446 posted on 06/21/2006 9:27:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Dumpster Baby
The giant ears of yellow corn we selectively evolved over time would be bizarre and even frightening to early Native Americans, as would all the breeds of lapdogs we have now.

Just thinking, what would they make of this?


447 posted on 06/21/2006 9:29:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SaveUS
Rather than suggesting that your interlocutor is some kind of anti-science religious nut, perhaps you might ponder, that on some matters, the science is so crude, that the suggestions as to how it happened can be better characterized as speculation, rather than awarded the overgenerous appellation of being characterized as a theory. Sure, if like me, you are a near atheist, you ASSUME that it happened somehow through natural processes. But to suggest it is anything other than an assumption, an a priori belief, is skating rather close to the sin of hubris, and that is one sin in my view, that has gravitas. Just ask the ancient Greeks.

I also dislike name calling, such as the indiscriminate use of the word "crevo" as a put down. We can do better than that, and we should.

448 posted on 06/21/2006 9:32:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I have the microwave, but currently I lack the chocolate bar.

You don't even *want* to know the half-life of chocolate when it is in my presence.

Cheers!

449 posted on 06/21/2006 9:32:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: PatrickHenry

People who teach their children silly creation myths in place of science should be charged with child abuse.


450 posted on 06/21/2006 9:34:35 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Obadiah
Well, they can fight back, but it's a losing proposition. I guarantee you that every evolutionist will at some point personally see the folly of evolution. I just hope that their realization happens on this side of their breath

You're kidding right? No one can really be that willfully ignorant and still be able to type a message.

451 posted on 06/21/2006 9:36:23 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Torie
"crevo" is one of the ones that I do not see as a putdown.

It is a contraction of CReationist/EVOlutionist. I see it as purely descriptive.

452 posted on 06/21/2006 9:38:32 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Since you were foolhardy enough to pique my curiosity, here are three questions. I make no claim to understanding anything, the questions themselves may in fact be nonsense...

1) Assuming for the nonce that the inflationary model is true, did inflation only occur in spacetime? What happened to the other dimensions (e.g. those of which Brian Greene and the superstring folks speak of)?

When you are in a black hole, likewise,what happens to those other dimensions? (Does Minkowski space 'shrink' so that it becomes similar in scale to the other collapsed dimensions)?

3) Can we have a Lisa Randall picture please?

Cheers!

453 posted on 06/21/2006 9:39:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BrandtMichaels

Evolution is evolution. There's no micro/macro to it.


454 posted on 06/21/2006 9:41:02 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Coyoteman
I guess it depends on the poster. What is a creationist/evolutionist by the way? Is that one who believes God said start your engines, and then it just happened, or what? Where was God active, and where was nature active, and what was the interaction of the two? Or is that concept so fuzzy, and idiosyncratic, that the term has no useful informational content?
455 posted on 06/21/2006 9:42:22 PM PDT by Torie
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To: MineralMan
Well, they can make one from almost nothing. It just takes a couple of scientists to do that trick. Takes about 9 months, though.

The subtitle reads "How to make a tiny person with tools you probably have around the home".

Cheers!

456 posted on 06/21/2006 9:42:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TheBattman
If the Bible is wrong on creation - then it is not infallible and thus the whole thing can be considered of no use.

You're talking about a mixed assortment of heavily plagiarized, mistranslated, later day reselected, heavily damaged and partially reassembled scrolls handed down from various tribes of middle-eastern sandal wearing bronze age goat herders. If you believe it's useful as a modern day science book, you've got a huge problem.

457 posted on 06/21/2006 9:51:36 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: MineralMan
Uffda!

Yah sure, you betcha.

458 posted on 06/21/2006 10:01:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Knowing the speed of the Earth around the Sun he found a value for the speed of light of 301,000 km/s.

Flippin' sweet!

Cheers!

459 posted on 06/21/2006 10:03:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: highball
And since you admit that the Bible contains factual errors

I did not admit the Bible contains factual errors. I did state that there have been errors - the term "factual" is yours. If you go back and look at what errors may exist in English translations - you will find primarily that they are grammatical/ and other errors that go back to the 1611 KJV, and even to that volume's predecessor.

Thus the reason I use more th an one translation plus a Greek parallel - to conpare for myself.

I believe that the Bible that is available today contains zero errors of fact or content. Any possible errors are strictly related to printing/typographical errors.

460 posted on 06/21/2006 10:10:39 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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