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U.S. court quashes sexual arousal test
upi via email no link | 6/21/6

Posted on 06/21/2006 7:11:58 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker

LOS ANGELES, June 21 (UPI) -- A U.S. appeals court in California has ruled a test to measure a male sex offender's sexual arousal deprives him of his liberty.

A three-judge panel was unanimous in its ruling in Los Angeles, and sent Matthew Weber's case back to District Court, The Los Angeles Times reported.

In 2002, Weber was sentenced to 27 months in prison for possessing child pornography on his computer. In addition, the judge ruled Weber would have to submit to penile plethysmograph tests in which a pressure-sensitive electronic device is placed around the penis as the response to stimulating images is monitored.

In Tuesday's ruling, the judges noted critics, including the American Psychiatric Association, have called the test unreliable, the report said.

"There is a line at which the government must stop. Penile plethysmography testing crosses it," U.S. District Judge John Noonan wrote in the ruling


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; 9thcircut; chatroom; childpornography; liberty; matthewweber; ouch; plethysmography; sexoffender
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1 posted on 06/21/2006 7:11:59 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker

Ah yes, the ol' Erector Detector.


2 posted on 06/21/2006 7:13:22 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NativeNewYorker

His liberty? His liberty?


3 posted on 06/21/2006 7:14:33 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Wolfie

ROFL. What the heck is the point of this ? Why in the world would they be interested in what this guy gets aroused with ? Guilty, done.


4 posted on 06/21/2006 7:15:12 AM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

I don't think these tests are unconstitutional. However, I don't think they are a good idea. We already know that child molesters never "get over" their attraction to children. We need to find ways to get them to CONTROL their impulses and not act on them. We should be testing self-control. Until it can be shown, they should not be released.


5 posted on 06/21/2006 7:18:24 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: NativeNewYorker

Now THERE'S a career:

Ppenile Plethysmograph Device Applicator


6 posted on 06/21/2006 7:18:29 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: NativeNewYorker

Wait a minute. The guy is convicted of enjoying child pornography and the Gov't wants to... show him child pornography?


7 posted on 06/21/2006 7:19:31 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Your Liberty? Your Liberty?

If the guy is guilty then put him in jail and leave him to rot.

Are you kidding me? The same people as populate the IRS are going to strap a wire to a guy's dick and then show him child porno....OUT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S PRIVATE STASH? With YOUR tax dollars!

Uh. NO!


8 posted on 06/21/2006 7:19:37 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: NativeNewYorker

This is what Michael Jackson paid ten million dollars to avoid.

MJ aside, just because they determine what arouses you with a penile plesthemograph and a bunch of dirty pictures, it does not indicate that you would ever ACT on that arousal, let alone in a criminal way.


9 posted on 06/21/2006 7:20:15 AM PDT by DBrow
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Now THERE'S a career: Ppenile Plethysmograph Device Applicator

I thought that was the oldest career in the world.

10 posted on 06/21/2006 7:20:31 AM PDT by rhombus
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the Gov't wants to... show him child pornography?

yeah! And strap a wire to his schlongg.

"Sir, you are guilty of possessing and viewing child pornography. Your sentence: we will show you the child porn that we possess."

11 posted on 06/21/2006 7:22:08 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: NativeNewYorker
LOL, Maybe all males over the age of 20 should be tested. Of course we'd need to come up with something for the women also.
12 posted on 06/21/2006 7:23:34 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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"Sir, you are guilty of possessing and viewing child pornography. Your sentence: we will show you the child porn that we possess."

Boggles the mind, doesn't it? Such is our legal system...
13 posted on 06/21/2006 7:27:29 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Realism
LOL, Maybe all males over the age of 20 should be tested. Of course we'd need to come up with something for the women also.

Unless, of course, they are hot women. /sarc
14 posted on 06/21/2006 7:28:00 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: rhombus
The guy is convicted of enjoying child pornography and the Gov't wants to... show him child pornography?

It's not terribly unlike the penalty phase of the Moussoaui trial. That SOB was loving the whole thing.

15 posted on 06/21/2006 7:28:04 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
....submit to penile plethysmograph tests in which a pressure-sensitive electronic device is placed around the penis as the response to stimulating images is monitored.

Ummmm........what if they show you pictures of a 17 year, 11 month, 29 day old Anna Kournikova?


16 posted on 06/21/2006 7:35:07 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: NativeNewYorker

Combine the dector with a shocking device.


17 posted on 06/21/2006 7:37:31 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
If he'd been executed the first time we wouldn't have to worry about it! Oh, wait; it's only possessing kiddie porn. He could have gotten that from just innocently opening an e-mail attachment, and didn't know how to delete it; yeah, that's the ticket...
18 posted on 06/21/2006 7:38:40 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: NativeNewYorker
I've never liked the though of law enforcement using 'plethysmography' since the moment I've heard about it.

Glad to hear that it's going away. I've never understood what law enforcement was trying to prove with this medieval contraption.

19 posted on 06/21/2006 7:39:49 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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Oops! I forgot the < /dripping sarc >.


20 posted on 06/21/2006 7:40:20 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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