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1 posted on 06/19/2006 6:45:17 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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heliocopter parent ping.


2 posted on 06/19/2006 6:45:51 AM PDT by xsmommy
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Sometimes I ponder, whether the Baby Boomer generation is the worst crop of people this nation ever produced.
3 posted on 06/19/2006 6:48:55 AM PDT by Vision ("America's best days lie ahead. You ain't seen nothing yet"- Reagan)
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University administrators have a name for these baby boomer moms and dads who hover over their offspring's college lives.

"Helicopter parents," says Patrick Heaton, FSU's assistant dean of student affairs.

I have a more apt name for them -- LIBERALS

5 posted on 06/19/2006 6:50:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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"They are paying a large part of the tuition bill, and it's just good customer service," he says.

there's the crux of it right there. my oldest will be a HS senior this fall and we are visiting colleges for her to decide where she wants to go, this summer. We are paying the bills, so you bet your behind we will have some input on what we get for our $.

6 posted on 06/19/2006 6:50:24 AM PDT by xsmommy
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Not very many of the students described in the article are children of "baby-boomers". In fact, way more of them are grandchildren of actual baby-boomers than are children of babt-boomers. The author is confused, at best.


8 posted on 06/19/2006 6:52:40 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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This doesn't surprise me one bit. Not since the first time I saw a mother putting what amounted to body armour on her son before he went for a ride on his bike. Treat kids like fragile little weenies, and they'll grow up to be fragile little weenies.
9 posted on 06/19/2006 6:54:07 AM PDT by LIConFem (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...)
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At FSU parents can call in to get their kids into the right parties and can check progress on the kids' fake id's.

Ok, so that isn't really totally true.


18 posted on 06/19/2006 6:56:32 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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I see my #1 job as a parent, outside of basic feeding, et. al, is to prepare my children to handle the real world on their own. I'll try to always be there when they really need me, but they need to learn how to make their own way without my interference.


20 posted on 06/19/2006 6:58:18 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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I hope these parents live to a very, very old age, because these dependent children they've raised are going to need them to help them with the rest of their lives too. They won't suddenly become independent thinkers when they get a diploma in their hands.


22 posted on 06/19/2006 6:59:10 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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I haven't read Strauss's book, but I've heard that basically what it postulates is that my generation (I as born in '81) shares more values with the WW2 generation than it does our parents. And I see this happening with my own eyes so I think the idea has some legs. I know that I tend to agree more with my grandparents than my parents on things.

In general, I think my generation is sick of the negativity and nihilism of the boomers, so we've decided to follow a different example.
23 posted on 06/19/2006 6:59:15 AM PDT by JamesP81
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Some parents are just nuts. They don't understand that when you turn 18, you're legally an adult. That means it's time to start making your own decisions.


25 posted on 06/19/2006 7:00:18 AM PDT by JamesP81
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Actually I see this as the natural outgrowth of the university ecconomics.

Universities are mere products. Parents and students are PAYING for a product. Professors and universites are unworthy of the respect of the past. Gone are the days when good grades meant something at a state university.

Eventually university consumers will demand and get a money back guarantee.


26 posted on 06/19/2006 7:00:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Many boomer parents carefully planned and fiercely protected their children, according to Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation, by Neil Howe and William Strauss. They saw their youngsters as "special," and they sheltered them. Parents outfitted their cars with Baby on Board stickers. They insisted their children wear bicycle helmets, knee pads and elbow guards.

I found this part of the article a little weird. My kid went to community college instead of high school. I drove him to the campus the first year (because he wasn't old enough to drive) and let him out. I never, once, in three years, set foot on that campus. He survived, and got his AA to boot.He's transferring into his new school as a Junior and we didn't attend orientation, he went by himself.

So I in no way consider myself, or my husband, a "helicopter parent."

HOWEVER, we did insist on bike helmets when cycling, and wrist guards and helments when skateboarding, etc. I don't consider that being "hovering"...I consider that common sense!

33 posted on 06/19/2006 7:02:23 AM PDT by dawn53
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This is the libs own fault.
For years we have been told that the problem with public schools is lack of parental involvement. The problem is that they don't want parental involvement, they want slaves who do the work while the teachers and administration socialize and eat donuts. The parents (who have one or two "precious" children who the Earth revolves around unless the parent has a nail appointment), are just doing what the libs have told them will improve the schools.

Now the parents ARE involved. Too involved. The libs can't stand the idea of reaping what they have sown. /rant off/


34 posted on 06/19/2006 7:02:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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interesting article. it's alot to think
about as parents of a rising senior...


41 posted on 06/19/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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I'm a boomer and even growing up in Kolliefornia I didn't become a loon like so many of my generation. I credit my mid-Westerner parents and (at the time) tradition-bound public schools for that. I can only imagine what sort of nonsense and brainwashing is going on at home and in school in CA (soon to be a member of the United States of Aztlan) these days.


43 posted on 06/19/2006 7:07:43 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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Parents of University of Florida students....

University of Central Florida parents....

At Florida State University, parents of graduating seniors....

What do you expect from three of the top party schools in party school central.

53 posted on 06/19/2006 7:16:53 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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I've been accused (laughingly by my wife) of being a helicopter parent, but my daughter is 6 and being raised in one of the most liberal states in the country. I am not going to cede my parental responsibilities to the school system and I am not going to let them take them from me either. My wife and I will be the architects of my daughter's character, not the 'socialization' she receives in the public schools, and I will continue to resist their efforts to make me back off.

Right now she's 6, not 16, and by then I like to believe I will have giver her a little more freedom, but for now you can say what you want about me, but I will allow no-one to harm my daughter either physically, or spiritually.

Period.
56 posted on 06/19/2006 7:20:47 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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What a delicious irony! Universities complaining about having to deal with the very behavior they encourage. Controlling liberals. Hehehehehe


97 posted on 06/19/2006 8:14:54 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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I have a few thoughts about this.

I am a hovering parent with one of my kids, but not the 2 others.

My son started middle school this year. I did call the principal once when I heard about rap and cussing at a dance. The principal changed the DJ, and that was the end of that. I also sent a few e-mails, but that was about it.

I wouldn't be involved much with my one of my daughters, except that she is an identical twin and she was in the same class as her sister.

Then we get to the 3rd child. She is special needs. I will be closely following her acedemic career all the way (hopefully) through college. I will talk to all of her teachers, even in college. Special needs kids are at high risk for all sorts of problems, so I need to stay on top of my daughters situation.

I know I have driven the public school officials crazy this year in 3rd grade, but my daughter is slipping acedemically. They deny it, so I had an independent evaluation. The public school doesn't want to give her more help, so we are putting her into a small private school. She'll stay there through middle school. It will be easier for me to monitor her in a small school.

Right now, I have to help her with her homework. She wouldn't be able to do it without me. Of course, I see this as a problem, and the public school does not. I do believe my daughter needs to do her own work.

I think there needs to be a new word for a parent like me.


99 posted on 06/19/2006 8:21:33 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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