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Pardon talk for Libby begins
Newsday ^ | June 19, 2006 | TOM BRUNE

Posted on 06/17/2006 11:10:30 PM PDT by RWR8189

WASHINGTON -- Now that top White House aide Karl Rove is off the hook in the CIA leak probe, President George W. Bush must weigh whether to pardon former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the only one indicted in the three-year investigation.

Speculation about a pardon began in late October, soon after Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald unsealed the perjury indictment of Libby, and it continued last week after Fitzgerald chose not to charge Rove.

"I think ultimately, of course, there are going to be pardons," said Joseph diGenova, a former prosecutor and an old Washington hand who shares that view with many pundits.

"These are the kinds of cases in which historically presidents have given pardons," said the veteran Republican attorney.

The White House remains mum on the president's intentions. Spokeswoman Dana Perino declined to comment Friday.

Bush has powerful incentives to pardon Libby, however. They range from rewarding past loyalty to ending the awkward revelations emerging from pretrial motions, a flow that could worsen in his trial next year.

Libby was indicted for lying in Fitzgerald's probe into who in the administration leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters in 2003, apparently to undercut her husband's attack on Bush's war-justifying claim that Iraq sought uranium in Niger.

By demanding sensitive, sometimes embarrassing materials, some say, Libby appears to be goading the White House into issuing a pardon. Libby's spokeswoman did not respond to questions about a pardon.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; cialeak; dcjury; indictment; karlrove; libby; pardon; rove; scooterlibby
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To: Texasforever

I can't either. Not one. He'll have to ask for a trial by judge and hope he doesn't get a clinton or carter appointee.


21 posted on 06/17/2006 11:40:38 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Rumple4

No Nixon didnt have a conviction


22 posted on 06/17/2006 11:42:37 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Texasforever

I think Libby will give a pardon. There are rumors that he mught pardon Former Louisiana Secretary of Insurance Jim Brown at the same time. It would be a smart move. They both are practically accused of doing the same thing and most people even Repubs thought Brown got a bad deal. So he pardons a dem and libby in his last year. Gives some political cover,


23 posted on 06/17/2006 11:52:43 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: RWR8189
W should stand in front of the cameras and say something like:

Given the nature of this case in which a faithful public servant has fallen victim to a de-moker-rat vendetta, I am going to follow the precedent established by my predecessor and sell Mr. Libby a pardon, uh, Scooter, you got a 20 on you?

At that point, Libby should hand W a 20 dollar bill and they should use it to send out for pizza.

24 posted on 06/18/2006 12:10:36 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: onyx
Can the lawyers or jury consultants ask political affiliation when selecting jurors?
25 posted on 06/18/2006 12:18:56 AM PDT by freespirited (If it ain't broke, it hasn't been touched by liberals.)
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To: Texasforever

I don't see anything wrong with your logic. I pretty much agree that the D.C. court is a crapshoot. On appeal he would be exhonerated IMO.

What's your take? Should he be pardoned now? It sure could open up a can of worms IMO.


26 posted on 06/18/2006 12:19:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: DoughtyOne
No because he would still be ruined financially and professionally. The only thing a pardon would do would keep him out of jail. His only option to get out of this with his law license is to be exonerated in a court of law. I would doubt that Libby would accept a pardon at this stage.
27 posted on 06/18/2006 12:22:11 AM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Good points... thanks. Again, I agree with you.


28 posted on 06/18/2006 12:24:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: DoughtyOne

I think Bush is going to let this play out and let the chips fall where they may be. The same "speculation" was made about Bush pardoning the crooked Enron executives. Of course, if Bush pardons Libby and liberals become "outraged," Bush should remind them that Slick pardoned Marc Rich and the Puerto Rican terrorists.


29 posted on 06/18/2006 12:25:59 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: RWR8189
He (Tom Brune) also has written about President George W. Bush’s use of appointments to dismantle government regulation, the implications for civil liberties of the switch from prosecuting to preventing terrorism, the future of affirmative action in college enrollment, and federal prosecutors’ virtual exemption of white mobsters from the federal death penalty.

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Tom Brune, Roberts Meeting “Illegal”: Legal Ethicists Say White House Interview. Jeopardized Judge's Impartiality in a Case on Military Tribunals

30 posted on 06/18/2006 12:29:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: RWR8189

I hope Bush does pardon Libby. I love watching the libs whining and crying and yelling about something they can do nothing about!


31 posted on 06/18/2006 12:30:06 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Make no mistake about it, I think Libby is getting a very raw deal with regard to these charges. That being said, I do think Bush will let this play out.

Yes, Bush could bring up a number of very shakey pardons from Clinton. I would rather we not play that game. I think you're right, I would just rather not take that option.


32 posted on 06/18/2006 12:32:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: monkapotamus

Libby is no stranger to pardons. He represented Marc Rich, the international criminal (and trader with Iran) pardoned by Clinton.


33 posted on 06/18/2006 12:33:56 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: DakotaRed
I hope Bush does pardon Libby. I love watching the libs whining ""

When criminal-traitor Marc Rich was pardoned by Clinton, Libby (who had been his lawyer - as well as a Clinton administration official) called Rich to congratulate him. If Bush pardons Libby, do you think Marc Rich will call him to congratulate him? The two deserve each other!

34 posted on 06/18/2006 12:35:38 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: kcvl

Hillary, Libby connected via Marc Rich
But senator slammed Scooter, called his actions 'reprehensible'



Posted: November 3, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


Though Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., hammered indicted ex-Cheney aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby, saying his alleged lying to a grand jury was "simply reprehensible," connections exist between the senator's husband, former President Bill Clinton, and the central figure in the CIA-leak probe via Marc Rich, the man who received an 11th-hour pardon from Clinton and who was represented by attorney Libby.

The Concord, N.H., Monitor points out Libby represented Rich during the '80s and '90s. Rich was the target of a 65-count indictment for various crimes, including trading with Iran amid the American hostage crisis and tax evasion. He was convicted in absentia on 51 counts.


Libby reportedly collected $2 million in fees from Rich during the time he represented the financier, who fled the country rather than face the charges.

Around the time of Clinton's 2001 pardon of Rich, his wife, Denise, donated more than $1 million to Democratic causes, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

While Libby denied having any involvement in the pardon, the Monitor reported, he did call Rich Jan 22, 2001, to congratulate him on his good fortune.

"Libby's powerful presence inside the White House – his title was assistant to George W. Bush as well as chief of staff to Cheney – might help explain why the incoming Bush administration failed to pursue obvious threads of corruption trailing out of President Clinton's pardon of Rich and other dubious figures," the paper conjectured.

Some see Hillary Clinton's denouncement of Libby as more than ironic, since Independent Counsel Robert Ray accused her of giving false testimony during his probe of the White House travel office. In addition, her husband was impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives based in part on a plea bargain deal he made with Ray that included the admission he gave false testimony under oath to a federal grand jury about his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

Libby, who makes his first court appearance today, has said he will plead not guilty to all five charges pending against him.


35 posted on 06/18/2006 12:37:43 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Paleo Conservative

GOP lawyer (Libby): Facts 'misconstrued' in Rich case
March 2, 2001
Web posted at: 3:15 a.m. EST (0815 GMT)




WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff testified Thursday he believes prosecutors of billionaire financier Marc Rich "misconstrued the facts and the law" when they went after Rich on tax evasion charges.

The testimony from Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who represented Rich dating back to 1985 but stopped working for him in the spring of 2000, came during a contentious, hours-long House committee hearing into former President Bill Clinton's eleventh-hour pardons.

Earlier in the day, three former White House advisers all said they recommended that the Rich pardon be denied, but that they supported Clinton's decision-making process.

Facing intense questioning from Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pennsylvania, Libby hedged on whether he thought Clinton's pardon was justified, infuriating the congressman.

"Did you represent a crook who stole money from the United States government, was a fugitive and should never have been given or granted a pardon by the facts that you know?" snapped Kanjorski.

"No, sir," Libby responded. "There are no facts that I know of that support the criminality of the client based on the tax returns."


36 posted on 06/18/2006 12:42:25 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: kenth
http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/get.pl?a=2001/3/4/214347

Time for 'Scooter' to Scoot (Because Libby called Marc Rich to congratulate him on his pardon)

John L. Perry March 4, 2001

It'll hurt like cutting off his right arm, but Dick Cheney has a duty to the presidency to fire his own trusted chief of staff. ...

Over a period of 17 years, when he would weave out of government, Libby represented Rich.

It would be fair to say, as was said of him during the committee hearing, that Libby probably knows more about that tangled case than any man alive.

On Jan. 22, two days after George W. Bush was sworn in as president, Libby did something quite wrong. He placed an overseas phone call, to Switzerland, to Marc Rich.

He phoned his old client and obvious friend, to offer congratulations on having been pardoned by Clinton – arguably the most-damned pardon ever granted by a president in the nation's history.

Libby's congratulations, as his testimony in the committee-hearing transcript reveals, were offered to a man he considered to be both a traitor and a fugitive from justice.

So what's the big deal? No one was injured – as in "no harm, no foul."

This isn't roundball. This has to do with the proper stewardship of the presidency, the delicacy and transcending importance of which this nation is just now, after eight awful years of Clintonism, only beginning to appreciate.

What's wrong, what's harmful is that if you are entrusted with public office, whether on the local school-board staff or as chief of staff of the vice president of the United States of America, you simply do not do what Libby did.

Marc Rich showed greater sensitivity to that imperative than Libby did.

Libby testified that Michael Green, one of Rich's defense counsels, told him that right after the pardon he had taken a thank-you call from the fugitive, who expressed reluctance to phone Libby to state his appreciation for all he had done for him over the years because, as Libby put it, Rich "did not want to get me into any trouble by calling me." ....

It's the right time for "Scooter" to scoot back to private practice again.

John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents, is senior editor and a regular columnist for NewsMax.com.

37 posted on 06/18/2006 12:48:39 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: RWR8189
There is no conviction.

Nobody can pardon an innocent man.

38 posted on 06/18/2006 12:55:27 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: Texasforever; RWR8189; monkapotamus; STARWISE; kenth; karnage; 1066AD; MrEdd; onyx; hocndoc
From:Wikipedia on "pardongate"

Denise Rich, Marc's former wife, was a close friend of the Clintons and had made substantial donations to both Clinton's library and Hillary's Senate campaign. Several months after her last donation, emails reveal Republican attorney Lewis I "Scooter" Libby asked her to approach Clinton about pardoning Marc Rich. Clinton agreed to a pardon that required Marc Rich to pay a $100,000,000 fine before he could return to the states. According to ABC news, Marc Rich was a middleman for several of Iraq's suspect oil deals in February 2001, just one month after his pardon from President Clinton.And a U.S. criminal investigation is looking into whether Rich, as well as several other prominent oil traders, made illegal payments to Iraq in order to obtain the lucrative oil contracts.

39 posted on 06/18/2006 12:56:27 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: ChadGore
There is no conviction. Nobody can pardon an innocent man."""

Not true. A president can issue a preemptive pardon. Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon had been convicted of anything. It's true that the Marc Rich pardon that Libby may have helped engineer (and that Libby definitely congratulated Marc Rich for) happened AFTER Marc Rich's conviction. Clinton did that pardon on a convicted man. But a president can also pardon a not-convicted scum, like Libby.

40 posted on 06/18/2006 12:58:38 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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