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Breaking: N Koreans Ordered To Raise Their Flag At 2PM (1 AM EDT), and Listen to Broadcast
Yonhap News (via Naver.com) ^ | 06/18/06 | Shin Ji-hong

Posted on 06/17/2006 6:15:31 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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N. Koreans Ordered To Raise Their Flag At 2PM, and Listen to Broadcast

N. Korean leadership ordered its citizen to raise their flag and listen to their (government) communique from TV in the evening, according to Sankei Shimbun (of Japan), quoting Japanese government sources.

The paper said it is paying attention this development because it could be related to the launch of Taepodong-2.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: broadcast; callhansbrix; escalation; flag; herrrrroooooooo; missile; missiledefense; missletestlaunch; mushroomcloud; nkorea; northkorea; proliferation; soronery; taepodong
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To: ww2eto; blu

The accent idea also comes from the book/movie (not a comedy at all) "Failsafe"

Walter Mathau played the character "Dr. Groteschelle" (sp), a German-born Harvard polisci prof who talks about how many kilodeaths and megadeaths certain bombs wil cause.

Everyone in DC knew was patterened after an then unknown Harvard prof named Henry Kissenger.


1,181 posted on 06/18/2006 6:08:06 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

On FOX at the news break they said the launch is "imminent"...but also it was said in a kind of ho-hum tone, so who knows?

It's night time there now..would they prefer a daylight or dark launch?


1,182 posted on 06/18/2006 6:08:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RedRover
Close. The Dr Strangelove character was baed on Nazi rocket scientist Werner von Braun, who came to America after the war.

I've heard the character was based in part on Edward Teller, who was unmatched in his enthusiasm for nuclear weapons. But Teller was Hungarian and came to the US to escape the Nazis. Between Teller's gung-ho attitude, Von Braun's Nazi past and Kaiser Wilhelm's arm tic, I think it's pretty safe to say the character was a composite rather than a character based on one person.

A recent PBS documentary on the space race portrayed von Braun as someone who was never a committed Nazi, but built weapons as a means to the end of putting satellites into orbit -- something he did extremely well for the US after the war. But it didn't shy away from the fact that he was a party member and an SS major whose V-weapon programs used a lot of slave labor.

Incidentally, the stiff-armed German also made a cameo in Young Frankenstein.

1,183 posted on 06/18/2006 6:15:18 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: SE Mom

Before I went to bed last night I think I read Fox had reported the missile was being fueled. Was there any further word on that? I guess that's why they're describing the launch as "imminent."


1,184 posted on 06/18/2006 6:17:33 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Cvengr
There were some sharper German, actually Prussian scientists who came here after the war.

WvB wasn't the best scientist on the project; neither was Robert Oppenheimer. Where they both excelled was at recruiting people smarter than them, organizing their efforts, and selling ideas that seemed pretty out-there at the time to the politicians who provided their funding.

1,185 posted on 06/18/2006 6:19:48 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: SE Mom
The latest from the Associated Press expains pretty much what has probably happened:

...South Korea's Yonhap news agency, citing a South Korean government official, reported that the weather around the North Korean launch site was bad, indicating the North may not fire its missile Sunday.

Satellite weather images posted on the Web site of the South's Korea Meteorological Administration showed clouds around the launch site in northeastern North Korea as of early evening.

A missile launch "depends a lot on weather conditions,'' a South Korean intelligence official told The Associated Press, but he didn't comment on weather conditions in the area.

With such weather, if there was no particular movement by 8 p.m. (1100 GMT) "we can say a missile won't be launched today,'' Yonhap quoted a Foreign Ministry official it did not identify as saying.

A nighttime launch is considered unlikely.

http://www.startribune.com/722/story/500153.html

1,186 posted on 06/18/2006 6:19:52 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: dawn53

This from AP:

There are signs" of a missile launch, Jung Tae-ho, a spokesman at the South Korean president's office, told The Associated Press, without elaborating. He said security officials were "closely watching the situation."

South Korea's Yonhap news agency, citing a South Korean government official, reported that the weather around the North Korean launch site was bad, indicating the North may not fire its missile Sunday.

Satellite weather images posted on the Web site of the South's Korea Meteorological Administration showed clouds around the launch site in northeastern North Korea as of early evening.


1,187 posted on 06/18/2006 6:22:07 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I think the choice of time of day is purely driven by public relations considerations.

When the U.S. launches a satellite, the driving consideration is the intended orbit. You want to launch when you will expend the least fuel manuveuring into final orbit. If you don't care much about the orientation ("right ascension of the ascending node") of your orbit, one launch window looks pretty much like another.


1,188 posted on 06/18/2006 6:23:02 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: maquiladora

LOL! GMTA:)


1,189 posted on 06/18/2006 6:23:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: maquiladora
South Korea's Yonhap news agency, citing a South Korean government official, reported that the weather around the North Korean launch site was bad, indicating the North may not fire its missile Sunday.

My goodness Karl Rove is good! ;-)

1,190 posted on 06/18/2006 6:25:06 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Karl Rove broke DU's toaster.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Scary good...

I have a feeling this may be a 10k thread.


1,191 posted on 06/18/2006 6:30:23 AM PDT by don-o
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To: SE Mom
What is known at this moment (mid morning US East Coast time Sunday):

The rocket on the pad in Musudan-ri, Hwadae County, North Korea is a Taepodong-2.

It has a heighth of 35 meters. At the highest diameter (lower stage booster rocket), it is 2.2 meters in width.

It therefore has a capacity neary 40% MORE than the Taepodong which was launched from there, right smack over Japan, in 1998. This is known from shadow interpretaton from satellite photos taken of the missile just recently by private firms.

1,192 posted on 06/18/2006 6:31:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A few clever bones tossed on gay unions, flag burning & Iraq still don't absolve GWB over BORDERS)
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To: rhainw
A Japanese government official, quoted by the daily Sankei Shimbun, said North Korea's leadership had told its people to raise the national flag at 2:00 pm (0500 GMT) and to then monitor television for a "message to the people".

Dan Rather is going to anchor their evening news?

1,193 posted on 06/18/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by b4its2late (Monstra mihi pecuniam!)
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To: maquiladora
It's a very risky operation to remove the fuel from the rockets now that the fueling is complete, its very unlikely that it won't be launched in the next few days.

Actually, those engineers responsible for the delay have suffered a firing squad and it will take at least 8 years to train another launch crew.

1,194 posted on 06/18/2006 6:31:47 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We got rocket scientists here. Is FR the best or what??!!

bbl

1,195 posted on 06/18/2006 6:32:11 AM PDT by don-o
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for the update.


1,196 posted on 06/18/2006 6:34:00 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: ReignOfError
Interesting. I had the pleasure of working briefly with Sterling Hayden years ago. He said Sellers had tape recorders all over his house and would constantly improvise dialogue to play for Kubrick. Sounds like just about everything went into the pot!
1,197 posted on 06/18/2006 6:36:25 AM PDT by RedRover (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Fire Murtha! http://www.irey.com/)
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To: SE Mom; AmericanInTokyo

Thanks for the updates, I see we're still waiting.

Personally I think we ought to shoot the darned thing down if they really launch it.


1,198 posted on 06/18/2006 6:41:16 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (“Double or triple our troubles and we would still be better off than any people on earth.”---Reagan)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Tried to Google Earth that location - no luck. Anyone?

Gotta run for church - bbl

1,199 posted on 06/18/2006 6:41:50 AM PDT by don-o
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To: ReignOfError
WvB wasn't the best scientist on the project; neither was Robert Oppenheimer. Where they both excelled was at recruiting people smarter than them

Tell you what. In twenty-five words or less, you describe the Born-Oppenheimer approximation.

In twenty-five more words, describe why it is so useful.

Not too many smarter than Oppenheimer--Feynman, Landau, Gell-Mann.

Cheers!

1,200 posted on 06/18/2006 6:46:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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