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THE REVOLT OF THE ELITES: And the Betrayal of Democracy (Book Review)
W.W. Norton & CO. ^ | December - 1995 | Christopher Lasch

Posted on 06/17/2006 5:56:58 PM PDT by TSchmereL

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To: michigander
George Orwell was right about many things.

In 1984, only the "Proles" were close to being free. Those in the Party were basically slaves.

I bet the "Proles" were shopping at WalMarts and watching Nascar.
61 posted on 06/18/2006 2:26:30 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: durasell
That sounds a lot like English. Now try a sentence with an identifiable subject, verb and object and we could have a conversation here.
62 posted on 06/18/2006 2:28:05 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: TSchmereL

Sorry, I don't deal with attitude.

Take care.


63 posted on 06/18/2006 2:29:28 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Sorry about my attitude. I could have been nicer and just said "I don't know what you mean."

I got to go anyway. Later.


64 posted on 06/18/2006 2:32:02 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: TSchmereL; durasell
I bet that Jefferson, Washington and Madison would have shopped at WalMart and loved Nascar.

Jefferson, that lover of fine wine, Italian architecture, and French women, may have only stopped at Wal Mart to purchase shotgun shells, most likely get his manservant Hercules to go inside. Don't know about Nascar, although he was known to attend a cockfight or two.

Washington was more of a homebody, not really into spectator sports.

One thing I am definately sure of: Martha Washington, Martha Jefferson, and Dolley Madison, would not be caught dead at Wal-Mart.

Most of the founding fathers had less regard for "redneck" culture (what they would have called "rustic") than certain revisionists would have you believe.

65 posted on 06/18/2006 2:34:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: TSchmereL

Marking.


66 posted on 06/18/2006 2:36:40 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = THE CONSERVATIVE DIVA)
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To: Torie

Mondrian?


67 posted on 06/18/2006 2:39:54 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Clemenza

Nice, but I don't believe anyone thinks of the Founding Fathers as "just folks."


68 posted on 06/18/2006 2:41:53 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

I think the point of the poster is that the founders were not full-blown, flaming, modern liberal, atheist, elitist, homosexual-agenda-pushing baby-boomers. Just a thought.


69 posted on 06/18/2006 2:45:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

From my understanding they were pretty much a mixed bag, i.e. Jefferson/Hamilton. The thing they seemed to have in common is a fierce intellect, which included a firm grasp of history.

That said, they were a bunch of guys and not gods. Yeah, they were really, really bright guys, but still mortal.


70 posted on 06/18/2006 2:48:32 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: WashingtonSource
I think this one would make an excellent stained glass window myself:


71 posted on 06/18/2006 2:52:02 PM PDT by Torie
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To: durasell

The guy who seems almost not mortal, is Lincoln.


72 posted on 06/18/2006 2:53:53 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

The guy who seems almost not mortal, is Lincoln


Yeah, well, he had a lot to deal with during his Presidency. The idea of America "manufacturing" the right people in times of crisis has always fascinated me.


73 posted on 06/18/2006 2:56:30 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: TSchmereL

This is nothing new. Think of Ebenezer Scrouge looking through the window at the Cratchetts celebrating Christmas. The elites are always looking in the window, trying to figure out why they have so much, but are lacking everything that really matters.


74 posted on 06/18/2006 3:00:05 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: durasell

What is stunning about the guy (the ulimate master of the use of the English language for the ages) is that he was entirely self educated. His iron personal self discipline combined with his genius (both displayed time and again, and again), is simply not of this world.


75 posted on 06/18/2006 3:00:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

...and his lows were really, really low. At one point he had contemplated suicide very early in his political career.

The Wills book, Lincoln at Gettysburg, is a fascinating study.


76 posted on 06/18/2006 3:03:49 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Torie
This guy perhaps?

Painting by Louis Morris

77 posted on 06/18/2006 3:08:48 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: TSchmereL

Ditto times 10 to your post.


78 posted on 06/18/2006 3:10:36 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Pharmboy
That is a mighty fancy tattoo, one might even suggest, dare I say it, an "elitist" tattoo.
79 posted on 06/18/2006 3:10:39 PM PDT by Torie
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To: durasell

"Those who aspire to enjoy those things generally viewed as elitist are often ridiculed for not appreciating "normal things."
Unfortunately, they expect the masses to shell out tax money so they can look down their noses at said "masses" as they pursue "the arts." In Ft. Worth, the artsy crowd wants the proceeds of two city-owned gas wells to support their cultural choices. There is no need to dip into tax money or public coffers to keep the Texas Motor Speedway going. To each his own, but don't ask me to pay for your choices. If there aren't enough people interested in supporting the arts with their own money, then move to a city where there are more people who will. The elites think we owe them far more than they are worth to society.


80 posted on 06/18/2006 3:10:52 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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