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Ann Coulter: Newsweek Lied - -Newsweek lied, the Truth dies !
NewsMax ^ | Friday, June 16, 2006 12:57 a.m. EDT | NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/17/2006 8:42:22 AM PDT by marc costanzo

The left-leaning Newsweek magazine lied about what she wrote in her book, an indignant Ann Coulter said during an appearance on Thursday night's Hannity & Colmes show on Fox News Channel.

"I'm sitting in a Fox studio in L.A.," Coulter said. "I don't know why there's a copy of Newsweek here rather than Human Events. Here is Newsweek describing Ann Coulter as saying '9/11 widows enjoyed their [husbands'] deaths.' That is simply a lie . . . That is a lie. If you can't deal with the facts and you refuse to say what the argument is, I think that's a total lack of confidence in your position and it certainly shows a complete lack of understanding [that] Americans can find out the truth these days - that it's not the mainstream media monopoly it was 10 years ago."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; colmessucks; coulter; godless; jerseygirls; liberalmedia; medialies; newsweak; newsweek
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To: youngjim

Hmm, another person who misses the point. Go ahead with your mudslinging--oops, I mean intellectual discussion.


181 posted on 06/17/2006 12:32:59 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes
I pointed out your wrong assumption which you next compounded that error. Then I asked you to correct your error. I take note that you chose to ignore acknowledging your error, much less make any attempt to correct it. You just carry on as if nothing happened. 

Yo dude, your credibility just took a considerable hit. It didn't have to be that way. You chose it that way. But hey, that's your problem -- not mine. Deal with it. Or don't. It doesn't matter to me -- it's your loss, not mine.

There's no escape. See tag line.

182 posted on 06/17/2006 12:33:00 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Zon

Yo, dude, until you explain your original post, I can't even figure out what my error was, dude!


183 posted on 06/17/2006 12:34:02 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Thumper1960

I'd say Coulter should do a better job analyzing connotations, but I think she was fully aware.


184 posted on 06/17/2006 12:35:56 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes
I took the Coulter passage not to mean the Jersey Widows took orgasmic pleasure in the deaths of their husbands, but, rather, they do enjoy the attention afforded them by the tragedies.

Admitting that I am not a mental genius, I assume most normal folks got the same inference.

Sadly, it seems I was wrong.

185 posted on 06/17/2006 12:36:45 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: ahayes
Funny how they seem to think that Coulter was just too uneducated to understand the implications of the word "enjoy" and realize it would convey meaning that she did not intend. Perhaps we should mail her a thesaurus to avoid such incidents in future?

I think she used "enjoy" in the way we commonly understand it: to derive pleasure from. It was only when she was challenged that she fell back to this "derive benefit from".

Perhaps she would be given a break if she, and her sycophants, would admit she could have used a better, more clear, more appropriate word. But, since I don't recall that Coulter has EVER admitted she might have made a mistake, she's certainly not going to back off in this case, when the klieg lights are in her face.

This is cult-like behavior.

186 posted on 06/17/2006 12:37:57 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: ahayes
I assume ulterior motives when I read, or hear, a Lefty.

I do not assume ulteriors from Conservatives.

187 posted on 06/17/2006 12:38:26 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: sinkspur

You're right, and I've wasted enough time on it for a Saturday afternoon. Thanks for pulling a couple people off from dog-piling on me. ;-)


188 posted on 06/17/2006 12:39:23 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Thumper1960

You are supremely generous-minded. Good day!


189 posted on 06/17/2006 12:39:46 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: ahayes
I appreciate the grand compliment.

I'm just happy to not be anal retentive.

FRegards.

190 posted on 06/17/2006 12:41:29 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: ahayes
The evidence indicates she used "enjoy" to mean "drew pleasure from." All of her other comments are consistent with this interpretation. In order to convince me otherwise you'd need to provide evidence that their husbands truly were about to divorce them and that they really did intend to pose for Playboy. Additionally, once you have done that, please provide reasoning why it is even relevant to discuss whether they might have gained some type of benefit from their husband's deaths--the only reason I can see to bring that up is to cast aspersions on their motives.

You are, quite simply, an idiot.

Their husbands were about to divorce them?

What the HELL are you talking about?  This isn't about them being pleased that their husbands are dead.  This is about them gaining benefits, after the fact, from those deaths.  Are you truly that stupid?

The evidence indicates she used "enjoy" to mean "drew pleasure from." All of her other comments are consistent with this interpretation.

What other evidence?  You have offered nothing but worthless drivel.  You have not addressed even the simple evidence of the definition of the word "enjoy," let alone Ms Coulter's particular intent.  You are a light weight.  Admit it, admit your total defeat and move on.  You should go back to DU and practice some more before you try to engage your betters. 

Go back to your day's playing ZORK, you immature and totally incompetent failure

You are in a deep pit.

Step one, stop digging.

None of these routes actually involve discussing what the widows say and why their demands are unreasonable.

OK, let's discuss what "the widows" (you seem to promote the anti-American lie that these four TRAITORS speak for all of the families of the 3,000 victims) have to say: 

From the Wall Street Journal, "The 9/11 Widows Americans are beginning to tire of them." from 2004

But the best known and most quoted pronouncement of all had come in the form of a question put by the leader of the Jersey Girls. "We simply wanted to know," Ms. Breitweiser said, by way of explaining the group's position, "why our husbands were killed. Why they went to work one day and didn't come back."

The answer, seared into the nation's heart, is that, like some 3,000 others who perished that day, those husbands didn't come home because a cadre of Islamist fanatics wanted to kill as many of the hated American infidels in their tall towers and places of government as they could, and they did so. Clearly, this must be a truth also known to those widows who asked the question--though in no way one would notice.

Who, listening to them, would not be struck by the fact that all their fury and accusation is aimed not at the killers who snuffed out their husbands' and so many other lives, but at the American president, his administration, and an ever wider assortment of targets including the Air Force, the Port Authority, the City of New York? In the public pronouncements of the Jersey Girls we find, indeed, hardly a jot of accusatory rage at the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. We have, on the other hand, more than a few declarations like that of Ms. Breitweiser, announcing that "President Bush and his workers . . . were the individuals that failed my husband and the 3,000 people that day."

Let's start there.  Is there any argument in that piece that you disagree with?  I've provided the link.  You can research that to your tiny little hearts content, regardless of the pain you cause to the families of the other 2,996 families who lost loved ones.  Go ahead.  Make your case.

The attack on the World Trade Center was George W. Bush's fault.  That's their basic argument.

Defend that, if you care to, you soul less troll. 


191 posted on 06/17/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: marc costanzo
It is this one single paragraph in 310 pages of carefully documented facts

... 310 pages of carefully documented facts ...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

192 posted on 06/17/2006 12:41:43 PM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: Poser

You have it EXACTLY right. It must be read and understood in context. As usual the MSM, NewsWeak, the harpies, etc. take it out of context to destroy its meaning and confuse the issue.


193 posted on 06/17/2006 12:47:21 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: sinkspur

If she meant derived benefit from, why didn't she use "benefit" rather than "enjoy"?

Because she knew hacks in the MSM and on forums would take the bait. She described some of the benefits, thus adds to the context of 'enjoying'

For, since day one on this forum you've not risen to the occasion.

What "occasion"?

See tag line.

194 posted on 06/17/2006 12:50:05 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Thumper1960; ahayes
I assume most normal folks got the same inference.

The antis on this thread have nothing to their argument but intellectual dishonesty and visceral hatred for the author. That they need to abuse AC (NY TIMES BESTSELLING AUTHOR 50,000+ copies sold) only displays their own pathetic weaknesses.

"Self-righteousness is like a drug, creating the warm sensation that you are more moral, more compassionate, more sensitive than anyone else in the universe. Once you've done it, you have to do it again and again and again."

Godless p. 58

195 posted on 06/17/2006 12:51:15 PM PDT by youngjim (Irony is wasted on the stupid)
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To: KJC1

The lie is she 9/11 widows as a whole and not a group of four that, well, seem to be enjoying their husbands' deaths.


196 posted on 06/17/2006 12:53:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: youngjim
Maybe an intelligent, strong and sharp woman scares them.
197 posted on 06/17/2006 12:54:30 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: ahayes
You're right, and I've wasted enough time on it for a Saturday afternoon. Thanks for pulling a couple people off from dog-piling on me. ;-)

Wow! Trying to inject a note of reason into the discussion really makes the hyenas howl!

Good job smoking out the true idiots!

198 posted on 06/17/2006 12:56:46 PM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: sinkspur
I think she used "enjoy" in the way we commonly understand it: to derive pleasure from. It was only when she was challenged that she fell back to this "derive benefit from".

I disagree and here is why:

If she had used the word enjoyed, it would indicate an occurance from the past and that they gained pleasure from their husbands' deaths. Since she used the word enjoying, she obviously meant the present. That is no accident. In the present, they enjoy celebrity, wealth and power caused by their husbands' deaths. To me, the difference is obvious.

It is possible that she didn't mean it that way but the language says otherwise.

I don't have to give her the benefit of the doubt here. The language indicates the second definition. I would need something more substantial to jump to the conclusion that Ann meant "enjoyed" their deaths (in the past) rather than "enjoying" the wealth, celebrity and power (in the present) brought about by their deaths.

199 posted on 06/17/2006 12:57:18 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Balding_Eagle

My only post in this discussion
was #26. I don't find any retort
to that post. What did you want me
to respond to?


200 posted on 06/17/2006 12:58:15 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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