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A Republicrat Party
The Afro ^ | June 15, 2006 | Ron Walters

Posted on 06/17/2006 4:17:04 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

There are forces that see the bankruptcy of both major political parties and want to profit from that fact by creating a third party to enter the 2008 election.

The most current response was offered by Hamilton Jordan, White House chief of staff for Democratic President Jimmy Carter and Doug Bailey, former Republican party strategist and founder of The Hotline, in the form of a "Unity08" party.

This effort, not to be confused with the Unity campaigns of the National Coalition of Black Civic Participation that run Operation Big Vote and Black Youth Vote for many years, proposes to be an entity that unites Democrats and Republicans in one presidential ticket, using a popular referendum on the internet.

My first response to this was that it is a hair-brained scheme, since the kind of unity sought by Jordan and Bailey would be monumental to achieve in an atmosphere where the conservative movement has driven not only the political parties farther apart, but has capitalized on divisive issues to split the American people as well.

Yet, these two believe there is room for such a party, because a poll they commissioned found the obvious: 82 percent of the respondents in the poll think that the existing political parties cannot solve America's problems and 75 percent want more political choices.

These responses may be regarded as either normal in an atmosphere where nothing is perceived to be working, or they may be the fuel to ignite a sizeable political firestorm beginning this fall and continuing on into the 2008 elections.

So, what kind of "unity" would they be able to achieve? It will depend on either the nature of the agenda they finally arrive at, or the entrance of a charismatic candidate. I am reminded that Ross Perot was a charismatic millionaire businessman who came into the election of 1992 and capitalized on a generalized mood of discontent among the American people, fostered ironically by the failure of George H. W. "Read my Lips" Bush, who lost credibility among conservatives in his own party when he raised taxes.

Perot's constituency was difficult to define, but his movement sailed along on the strength of his personality. Then, George Wallace was not as charismatic, but his anti-civil rights, anti-government platform was enough to attract a following among several Southern states, such that he was able to keep Democrats from the White House.

Whether the Unity08 party achieves viability, it most certainly will be more of a threat to the Democratic Party since Jordan and Bailey offer a version of "centrism" that has been the leading edge of the politics of the party for more than a decade.

Such a party could shave off some adherents to that philosophy inside the Democratic Party, while affecting Republicans less, because they have been more ideologically coherent as a conservative party.

This would appear to be the kind of environment within which Black politics could make some headway. However, what may keep this from happening is an even more fierce loyalty to the Democratic Party prompted by the threat posed from within.

The fear that Democrats might lose because of the impact of a third party has always been a strong motive for "party unity." Simultaneously, it has kept Black Democrats wedded firmly to the Party, so firmly that they were afraid to use the strategic position created by a third party to make demands in exchange for their support.

The idea of having a progressive Rainbow line looks good because it could not only counter the centrist philosophy that threatens the Black agenda by becoming an official political party. It could also provide Blacks with significant leverage over the Party at a time when it faces a split in ranks.

Is this cold-blooded politics? Yes, but look at the lengths to which a Hamilton Jordan will go to have leverage over the fate of the Democratic Party and over the political process in general. That is really cold-blooded. The fact that we have not been up to this kind of politics is a marker suggesting why the growth in political participation by voting and electing Blacks to office has not yielded the kind of dividends that it might.

So, let's get in the game, too. We've been on the sidelines far too long!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dougbailey; electionpresident; elections; hamiltonjordan; liberalthirdparty; thirdparty
We don't need a third party for liberals and moderates.
1 posted on 06/17/2006 4:17:07 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

Yes we do. Cause if they were in the 3rd party they would not be screwing up our party.


2 posted on 06/17/2006 4:24:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party! For people who prefer slogans over solutions!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Third party?
1. Conservatives
2. Communists
3. ??? Lite-Communists


3 posted on 06/17/2006 4:41:24 AM PDT by King Moonracer
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To: FerdieMurphy
Such a party could shave off some adherents to that philosophy inside the Democratic Party, while affecting Republicans less, because they have been more ideologically coherent as a conservative party.

I think this is true.

4 posted on 06/17/2006 4:42:43 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: FerdieMurphy

Mizz Hillary and Bubba hard at work here folks!!!Figures Bill and Ham Jerdan would someday find one another........


5 posted on 06/17/2006 4:51:15 AM PDT by mo
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To: FerdieMurphy
ahhh...the return of the "Little General".

That aughta fix things.

6 posted on 06/17/2006 4:54:23 AM PDT by evad
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To: King Moonracer
GONNA MAKE THIS IDEA IN TWO POSTS -- THE AUTO FORMAT MAKES IT TOO LONG AND W/O PARAGRAPHS While I DO understand the difficulties involved in beginning a 3rd party {developing a base large enough to even be counted, much less to participate in debates, and draw attention from the broad base of the population that is involved in politics only during the immediate election cycle}, and also the political dangers involved { Destroying coalitions that have given current clout before enough power is developed to have clout on thier own -- thus allowing the other side to take power}, Yet at the same time I DO see the romance of a viable third party.
7 posted on 06/17/2006 5:10:10 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: 9999lakes

How about THIS for a 3rd party base?
[1] Start with Reagan democrats -- Strong on defense and traditional values. Lots of them.
[2] Add current democratic voters who may be disillusioned by the left-lunies that have become the mouth and heart {if not the brain} of the democratic party. I don't know how many of them there are. These would be people who feel Social Security is important, but Gay marriage is not.
[3] Then stir in Social Conservatives from the Right -- those driven into the republican camp by issues like Abortion, family values, and the attack on Christianity. They're also strong on defense and patriotism.
[4] Add the minority groups with those same values, but for whom voting republican is just a cultural hurdle they cannot make themselves leap.


8 posted on 06/17/2006 5:10:46 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: FerdieMurphy

I like it! They could split their votes with the rats.


9 posted on 06/17/2006 5:10:55 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: 9999lakes
-->Of Those four groups: a. NONE feels very comfortable with the country club segment of the GOP. b. They also are not comfortable with the Michael Moore/Janeane Garofolo democrats. c. ALL of them support the federal safety net, AND d. Tax cuts are not especially important to them.
10 posted on 06/17/2006 5:11:11 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: FerdieMurphy

The sentences in this article are too long.


11 posted on 06/17/2006 5:18:58 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Excellent idea.

Vast numbers of moderate democrats are looking for a new home where the wacko lunatic left does not reign.

Those wacko's need to figure out the majority of Americans do not think or believe in their policies or ideologies.

The sooner they lose whatever power they think they have, the better. They need to be reduced to a party that fits in a phone booth

Unity08 just may be the ticket to do that

12 posted on 06/17/2006 5:22:21 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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I just wish there was a serious, competitive, non-fringe Party for REAL Conservatives.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 5:31:37 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: FerdieMurphy
The party already exists within the ranks of the republican party. Some call them rinos.

Let's look at a short list comparison of recent rulings by the supreme court.

Eminent domain: Conservatives in congress should be screaming from the high heavens at the loss of property rights demanding an amendment to our constitution to return our property rights. Not even so much as a shrug from either party. Both democrats and republicans (republicrats) agree we the people should stripped of our property rights.

States rights and the rights of voters: The people of California (like it or not) voted for medicinal marijuana.
The supreme court ruled the people of California have no such right. Conservatives in congress sworn to defend our constitution should be screaming from the high heavens demanding an amendment to our constitution preserving states rights and the rights of voters in the individual states. But nay, not so much as a whimper from either party. Both democrats and republicans (republicrats)agree states and voters, bottom line, have no such rights.

No knock home invasions: The SC ruled police can execute a no knock raid when they feel like it. No knock raids are violent and deadly. No knock raids are often conducted on a single tip from some crack head informant. No knock raids
are a violation of the rights of the people to be safe and secure in their homes. Many an innocent person has been killed when a no knock raid was executed on some crack heads tip on the wrong home. No knock raids are deadly and extremely violent risking the lives of the police and the home's occupants. There should be extreme limits on no knock raids. A no knock raid should be issued by judges and magistrates only when convinced there is absolutely no other way possible on the face of the earth to nab this suspect and catch him red handed with the evidence sought...and then only when convinced no harm may come to the innocent that might be in the home as well.
But the SC said screw the innocent and all those innocents already killed in such violent raids. (Most unnecessary btw) Conservatives in congress should be demanding an adherence to the constitution protections against such unreasonable and violent raids...and offering an amendment to our constitution to limit no knock raids. But not so much as a flinch from neither republicans or democrats. Both republicans and democrats agree these violent, deadly, and often mistaken raids are ok by them. (republicrats)

Patriot Act: understand, realize, accept it or not, this act gives a middle finger to our constitutional guarnantees. And yes, a middle finger to our constitution may be the only way for now to catch a terrorist. But no way under any circumstance should we give up our freedoms nor our constitution not now not ever for some sense of security that may be real or imagined by congress. (republicrats)

14 posted on 06/17/2006 6:02:22 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Sorry Mr. Jefferson, we forfeited the God given rights you all put to pen. We have no excuse.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

There are forces that see the bankruptcy of both major political parties and want to profit from that fact by creating a third party to enter the 2008 election....Meanwhile back in the real world.....


15 posted on 06/17/2006 7:38:00 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: LegendHasIt

There is. It's called the republican party.
You don't like Lincoln Chafee (And what sane person does?) get him voted out. It's the way the system works.


16 posted on 06/17/2006 7:41:33 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Moderates, centrists, and "middle of the road"....these are all euphemisms pushed by the Left in order to demoralize conservatives and weaken the GOP.

The cold hard fact is that conservatism itself is moderate, centrist, the middle, etc. If more Republicans candidates would push a genuine conservative agenda, they'd get more support.

Unity08 is a scam designed to force the Republican Party to move to the Left. Anyone with an IQ of an ostrich can see this.

17 posted on 06/17/2006 7:48:38 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: 9999lakes
Yet at the same time I DO see the romance of a viable third party

Sorry, I don't.

Third parties are a scam, and it's time the Libertarians and Constitution parties get behind the GOP and unite to defeat the Dims once and for all.

There's plenty of room in the GOP for Libertarians and Constitutionalists, just as there's a Christian wing and a RINO wing.

18 posted on 06/17/2006 7:50:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: FerdieMurphy

In Alaska we have two republican parties.. moderates and real republicans even on the ballot.... but only one democrat party.. except for the Socialist Party


19 posted on 06/17/2006 7:55:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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