HA ha...
and the commieRATS take another one in the...
Posted on 06/17/2006 3:57:38 AM PDT by lizol
French communists end relations with Russian Communist Party because of gay scandal
09.06.2006 Source:
The world communist movement is currently facing a major scandal. The relations between the Russian and the French communist parties have been practically ruined. The reason of the conflict lies in the negative attitude which the leader of the Russian communists, Gennady Zyuganov, expressed against the recent gay pride parade in Moscow.
The outcome of the “free love parade” in Moscow is history now. Young communists and patriots violently attacked the homosexuals and defamed them. Delegates of the French Communist Party, who took part in all events organized by the Moscow gay movement, did not hesitate to express their reaction to that.
The French communists harshly reproached their Russian colleagues of being homophobic and betraying the Marxism-Leninism ideology. The Socialistic Party of France (the country’s second largest party) supported the communists of France too.
Unlike for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the struggle for social justice implies the protection of class interests, as well as people’s rights and freedoms, including the right to choose a sexual orientation.
That is why the French communists described the Russian Communist Party as a homophobic and anti-communist organization. A member of the political bureau of the French communist organization Richard Sanchez said that they simply could not make up with such an idea. “It is nonsense for European communists. Being a communist and a homophobe at the same time is so typical of the Communist Party of Russia,” said he.
Another spokesman for the French communist party said that the CPRF was a non-communist party, which still had the communist rhetoric, but betrayed the ideals of Marxism.
“The French comrades” also criticized Russia’s communists for their aspiration to form the real opposition in Russia. “The Russian Communist Party has actually been the government of the country for almost 80 years. Therefore, they simply do not know what it means to be a real opposition. They think of themselves as the opposition, but they do nothing that an opposition organization would do. It’s all about declarations, that’s all,” Sanchez said. Richard Sanchez thinks that Russia needs to have the real leftist movement, but not the CPRF which views itself as an opposition organization.
The Communist Party of France harshly criticized the long-standing leader of the Russian Communist movement, Gennady Zyuganov. “Many in Europe think that he personifies the communist party of the Stalin regime. It is very good for the CRPF’s opponents to have Zyuganov in the office as long as possible. As long as such political adversaries exist, everyone can live at their ease,” a FCP member said.
The standstill in the Russian communist movement, as FCP believes, has been caused because of the isolationist and totalitarian stance of its leadership. “Russian Communist Party may have its future only if new people join it, the people of the new generation. The leadership needs to be changed. We hope that young people will come and join the CPRF in order to change the party from within. Zyuganov must go and make way for young people. However, he will keep the power in his hands until a strong movement stands up against him,” Sanchez emphasized.
Furthermore, spokespeople for the French communist organization were shocked to know that the leaders of the Russian Communist Party actively cooperate with Neo-fascists and nationalists. “Their contacts with fascist-oriented organizations discredit the party in the eyes of all European communists. It is a grand shame. However, the Russian communists dare to blame us for the betrayal of the communist ideas,” one of the FCP delegates said.
Despite such a complicated situation, the FCP spokespeople stated that the parties could still continue to cooperate. However, “this cooperation could only be possible when the CPRF has the people who defend liberal values and freedoms.” For the time being, the leadership of the French Communist Party can only criticize the CPRF for its homophobic views.
The leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Gennady Zyuganov publicly condemned the initiative to hold a gay pride parade in Moscow. He stated that it was an “unhealthy” idea and refused to comment the critical position of his French colleagues. Zyuganov’s press secretary Alexander Yushchenko expressed his boss’s attitude on the matter anyway: “The French communists can support whoever they want there in France: either homosexuals or onanists,” said he.
The remarks from Zyuganov’s deputy, Ivan Melnikov, were clearer. The official said that Russia was a country of firm traditions. "Moscow is not Berlin or Paris. Any displays of unconventional sexual orientation look revolting in Russia. The gay parade was originally initiated by a small group of people. They were interested in their own promotion. They probably worked someone’s investment too,” Ivan Melnikov said.
“We have quite good relations with the French Communist Party, but we have never touched upon the question of the gay parade in Moscow. We do not know the people who made public statements for the media (FCP member Richard Sanchez). That is why we do not identify their views with the position of the French Communist Party,” the official added.
As it can be seen, the leadership of the Russian Communist party decided to ignore the criticism of their French comrades. At least, they tried not to take the incident too seriously.
It is not ruled out that the Central Committee of the French Communist Party may write an open letter to the leadership of their Russian communist organization. The French communists may want to cease all contacts and relations with Russia. The FCP is the stronghold of European communist movement, which means that the conflict may bring serious trouble for the CPRF. It may become a party in disgrace, while the West may finally be convinced of the anti-communist essence of the Russian Communist Party and its leader Gennady Zyuganov.
The works of Jacob Talmon clearly illustrate the brutal parade from Rousseau to Pol Pot:
(from Wikipedia)Jacob Leib Talmon (1916-1980) was Professor of Modern History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He has been categorised as a 'Cold War liberal' because of his devout anti-Marxism which permeates his main works.
He notably studied the genealogy of totalitarianism arguing that such political Messianism stemmed from the French Revolution, and stressed the similarities between Jacobinism and Stalinism. He coined the terms Totalitarian Democracy and Political Messianism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Talmon
Origins of Totalitarian Democracy would be a good place to start - it's a seminal work.
What is the populaton of Poland? How many troops did they have in Iraq? If I recall correctly they had a token force of 300. The Poles support for America is based on their desire for visas to come here.
I have a new understanding of PINKO.
Gays were persecuted in the Soviet Union, and Castro's regime is still one of the most repressive against gays.
Yet for some reason the lefties seem to ignore this fact.
Thank you. I will have a look at this book.
There has always been a very strong Russian nationalist component in the Russian (or even Soviet) Communists. Homosexuality is not in the best interest of the Russian nation.
COMMUNIST HISSY FIT!
Don'tcha just love it?
It is not in the best interest of ANY nation!
"If Mexico is literally shoveling millions of anti-American, illiterate illegals into this country, why can't we have much better educated, strongly pro-American legals from Poland?"
As long as State Department and other agencies connected to immigration are filled with "Embedded DemocRats" we'll never see fair immigration policies for Eastern Europeans. It's not in the DemocRat Party's interests to allow socially conservative Eastern European immigrants into our country - they'll vote Republican.
The immigration issue is connected with future voting and that's why the DemocRats want to see people who are more prone to relying on government assistance (handouts) for survival. Eastern European immigrants to the US are too educated and hard working (and too proud) to live off of the labors of other Americans.
Our immigration policy should be one that fortifies our national security. Letting millions of uneducated undocumented CRIMINAL aliens remain is a direct threat to our national security.
Looks like a bitch fight to me. Oh the drama, lol.
Meaningless Scholasticist quarrel, like the one in the 14th century about the true nature of "secondary intentions" [i.e. thoughts about thoughts, or the thoughts of the second order]. The participants then, if memory serves, deduced from one another's positions that their opponents had [reciprocally] fallen into [different] heresies. Regrettably, they were not all burned at the stake immediately after the disputation - the same regret could be expressed here.
How dare the French communists teach their Russian comrades what is communist and what isn’t. The Russian communist are absolute long time champions in communism ideology and NOBODY has the right to tell them how to be a communist. The French communist deserve for a trip to the Siberian Gulag if they fail to understand superiority of the Russian communism :)
I don't understand gay groups that support organizations that hostile to gays. If the organization was in power, the gays would be one of the first groups persecuted.
Very True. LOL
French communists end relations with Russian Communist Party because of gay scandal
As comrade Clinton would say, it all depends upon what the meaning of comrade is...
This isn't a new issue. In 1985, visiting Dutch commies staged a demostration in the Red Square in support of "gay rights." The Russians were flabbergasted...
"The French communists harshly reproached their Russian colleagues of being homophobic and betraying the Marxism-Leninism ideology. The Socialistic Party of France (the country’s second largest party) supported the communists of France too."
Absolute proof, if anyone needed it, that the Russians are not interfering with European affairs---especially not utilizing the Communist Party. This is a relief to me personally. I was a little worried when I saw Schroeder, chancellor of Germany for many years---going right to a job at Gazprom from his chancellor job. I thought that might mean there was some element of Russian interference in European affairs. But this article shows us that is not true.
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