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VoIP sounds death knell for home phones
vnunet.com ^ | 15 Jun 2006 | Matt Chapman

Posted on 06/16/2006 7:29:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Voice over IP wielding the knife, says analyst

VoIP technology spells the end of traditional home telephone numbers, according to an industry analyst.

A study by JupiterResearch claims that the rise in fixed/mobile telephone services appeals strongly to Europeans, and that location will cease to be important for either making or receiving calls.

The report said that 27 per cent of consumers are already interested in regularly using their mobile phone in place of their home telephone.

"VoIP will convert the home telephone from analogue to digital and, once digital, the home telephone number will become unfixed," said Ian Fogg, lead author of the reports and senior analyst at JupiterResearch.

"It will no longer be available just at home, but in the office, in internet cafes and even on mobile phones."

Fogg explained that VoIP telephony is attractive to consumers because services are cheap and flexible.

The study found that PC-based VoIP telephony already appeals to 17 per cent of consumers in Europe, with 21 per cent interested in diverting their home telephone to a mobile phone showing their desire to use their home telephone number wherever they are.

However, Fogg warned that services must be allowed to operate across other providers' systems if uptake is to be successful.

"Mobile operators and internet VoIP competitors must lobby to ensure that their VoIP services operate unimpeded across other ISPs' connections, or they must be prepared to invest in fixed broadband to ensure the security of network supply for their VoIP services," he said.


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To: dawn53

Happy with Verizon, are ya? How long you been working there?


21 posted on 06/16/2006 7:53:28 PM PDT by jayef
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To: Terpfen

This is Europe.

Telephone service and quality are notoriously bad there.

Cell phones were a big hit along time ago there because it worked much better than land lines and wasn't nearly as regulated.

So I can believe VoIP is an improvement there.


22 posted on 06/16/2006 7:53:45 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: TommyDale
I have now switched over all telephone land lines to VoIP.

How is the quality of the sound? Is it ever dalayed, garbled, or drop out completely?

23 posted on 06/16/2006 7:55:35 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: The Brush

I had listed my numbers on the National "Do Not Call Registry" but I was ALWAYS getting junk calls. This ended them. Once in a while, some sneaky telemarketer will use 000-000-0000 but I even block those now. A few local numbers (Newspaper, etc.) are now blocked. Credit card companies who continue to call (they are allowed, if they do business with you) are now also blocked. Crank calls are entered manually, then they disappear as well. It's a great feature for privacy, especially during the dinner hour!


24 posted on 06/16/2006 7:57:57 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: stripes1776

Once in a while there is a delay, but no different than on a cell phone. The 3-way calling is crystal clear, with excellent volume on all sides. I cannot complain.


25 posted on 06/16/2006 7:58:56 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: ARealMothersSonForever; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hey, folks, could I interest you in a re-reading of my post?

I said cell phones are doing more to erode home landlines than VoIP. I didn't say VoIP is pointless or will somehow fail. I didn't say typical landlines are destined to live forever. This is just common sense: cell phones have been around longer than VoIP. Everyone has a cell phone. Not everyone has VoIP.

Reading comprehension. It is a wonderful thing.


26 posted on 06/16/2006 8:00:18 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: nickcarraway

VOIP is the way to go. The whole telecommunications landscape is changing for the better. What I'd really like to see is dual use numbers where your cell number also doubles as a VOIP number. It makes a lot of sense. I can't wait till high speed nationwide wireless broadband is everywhere. Then I can toss my standard cell and use VOIP everywhere.

I was talking to a friend from India and he said VOIP is really popular overseas where there is broadband available. It is easy for a person in the states to activate a Vonage VOIP adapter and then send it to their relatives overseas with a local number in the states attached to it and then they can make calls from India anywhere in the US as if they are stateside.

I love the virtual world. The idea that one could be in a mudhut in the middle of Africa and have a US telephone number is just beautiful. lol


27 posted on 06/16/2006 8:00:50 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (The truth exists and will make itself known whether we support it or not.)
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To: justche
I hae a voip line and a land line. I'm not giving up my land line ..quality is spotty. With DSL it's awful when I'm trying to do more than one thing on the computer. Might be better with cable internet.

I'm a happy VoIP user with DSL Internet service. My VoIP service wasn't good or solid until I upgraded my Linksys firewall/router firmware to include Quality of Service functionality. Now that I've set the Linksys to give priority to the VoIP adapter it's great. No more echoes or lost dial tones.

28 posted on 06/16/2006 8:04:00 PM PDT by whd23
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To: nickcarraway
I had a lot of neighbors wanting to use my "land line" during the extended loss of power during hurricanes Charley, Francess and Jeanne. I recommend keeping a land line plugged into a wall jack as a backup. You would be surprised by how many people just have cordless phones, (which don't work in a power outage).
29 posted on 06/16/2006 8:04:53 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: nickcarraway
The bloody 'ell with that..where are the damn teleporters?!

(course, we have to figure out how to filter Arab DNA..)

30 posted on 06/16/2006 8:05:23 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Screamname

Yes I've become one of them. I love my bluetooth adapter. I wish it was smaller and black but I'll remedy that soon enough. It works well with my SLVR so I can not complain. What we need is an small adapter that can also accept mental cues so that you can carry on duel conversations one with your friend on the phone and one with your boss. It will happen eventually.


31 posted on 06/16/2006 8:08:21 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (The truth exists and will make itself known whether we support it or not.)
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To: nickcarraway

You useda pay $10-$15 a month for a land line that served the entire family. Now you're paying $150+ for cell phone toys for all members of the family. That's progress. For the cell phone companies, which succeeeded in creating an artificial need that didn't exist, and still doesn't as far this cat's concerned. The money's rolling in. Note the spacious, bright sales offices of cell phone companies in high rent districts. Note the full page ads in daily newspapers. Congratulations, you're paying for it, paying for the privilege of being able to report to your dear family members that you're in isle 5A of your local supermarket. I ain't!


32 posted on 06/16/2006 8:13:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: stripes1776

You have to make sure that you have a really good connection. If your broadband is sketchy so will your phone connection. You can control the amount of bandwidth Vonage uses by adjusting the quality settings on your account. We had a few problems on and off in the beginning but most of them were related to the cable broadband provider not Vonage.


33 posted on 06/16/2006 8:13:06 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (The truth exists and will make itself known whether we support it or not.)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

We dumped our landline for ViaTalk. We had some echoing at first but when they helped me get my router tuned in it has worked great ever since. I use it for faxes, which is the only thing lacking...it usually takes several tries to get the fax through, but I've always been able to get them through. I'm sure if I called customer service it could be fixed...I just don't fax that often.
You were talking about wanting to be able to use your cell as your VOIP. ViaTalk has the option called simultaneous ring configuration...when anybody calls the house it also rings on my wife's and my cell phone. I really love that feature.
For 3.95 a month I also have an area code in North Carolina and a friend who lives there calls me on that number and it is a local call for him.
I'll never go back to landlines.


34 posted on 06/16/2006 8:14:15 PM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Ma3lst0rm
What we need is an small adapter that can also accept mental cues so that you can carry on duel conversations one with your friend on the phone and one with your boss.

Call me an old fart, but no thanks.

35 posted on 06/16/2006 8:17:40 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Twenty years in the Navy. Never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: Terpfen
No foul intended. I work in the industry. There is no difference in the transport layer between VOIP and wireless. The terminal device has a MAC address, which gets the application assigned an IP address. This is how the video clips (especially ESPN and HBO, who are very sensitive to signal security) get routed. Fixed wireless fills an intermediate requirement. I have worked projects in the EU. The technology gets tested there and in Asia before it rolls out here. Internet Protocol TeleVision, IPTV, has been available in EMEA for a few years. Thing is, most folks do not realize that voice circuits have been IP (H323) based for many years. The only exceptions being Nextel and other "push to talk" services. And PCS. Although those are rapidly migrating. The big telcos kept the fleecing going on as long as they could. Now you can get all-distance for around $40.00 per month, and the broadband connection costs are falling. European landlines are horrible, with no echo-cancelling. Call clarity over VOIP into Europe is superb. But they still have subsidized pstn networks that will be around for another 50 years.
36 posted on 06/16/2006 8:19:48 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: nickcarraway
A couple of my friends use VoIP exclusively, and I shudder every time I talk to them because it's so terrible. Seems like it's got a bit further to go.
37 posted on 06/16/2006 8:20:29 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: nickcarraway

Ditched my landline for cells about three years ago. Recently got a Skype number for $38 for the year. That's the number I'll give out to people I don't like.

Heck, at that price a few more numbers would be good for that too.


38 posted on 06/16/2006 8:21:38 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (My head hurts.)
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To: dawn53

I had Vonage with a lot of breakups and poor customer service. Changed to Packet8 and have had no problems. $20 per month unlimited over a wireless ISP broadband with a rolled in price of $30. Saving about $50-$75 per month.


39 posted on 06/16/2006 8:22:31 PM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: jayef

Haha, don't work there, but we have no complaints. I know what my bill will be every month (it's a set fee) and I've never had an interruption in service.

We don't use Verizon for our internet service. I've not heard favorable things about their DSL service.


40 posted on 06/16/2006 8:25:13 PM PDT by dawn53
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