16th anniversary of creating the GROM, Polish Special Unit (photo report)

www.mon.gov.pl ^

[Spirited]

Thanks for the post, Lizol.

,,,In 1989 many Jews were allowed to leave the Soviet Union for Israel. For fear of Islamic terrorists who opposed increased immigration to Israel, most western European countries did not assist in the transport of civilians. Poland was one of the handful of countries to provide aid in the organisation of this operation, later nicknamed Operation Most. After two Polish diplomats were shot in Beirut, Lt. Col. S³awomir Petelicki was sent to Lebanon to secure the transfer of civilians and the Polish diplomatic outposts."

And for all this you can rarely find a Jew who doesn't denigrate Poland and adore the Ruskies. God sees and judges.

[HoosierHawk]

Thanks for the ping.

Great pics.

And God bless 'em, GROM is heroic.

[91B]

Thanks for the great thread Lizol.

[Lurker]

One thing the Americans could do is move their bases out of Germany and into Poland, which has less population density and greater space to conduct exercises."

I'll second that motion.

L

[Atlantic Bridge]

As a German it is always amazing to me when other nations and their citizens are celebrating their millitary. In my country we have a quite cool relationship to our forces although we have also some skilled elite units like the KSK or the GSG9. We see them simply as a expensive necessity for our defense but we are for sure not proud of them. In fact we want them to sit on the fence since it is more convenient to delegate "jobs" abroad to those who are "gung ho" to do it. Most of those "jobs" are anyway none of our own business. Since Germany had to deal with its dirty SS-history, members in a elite unit are not "sexy" anymore to most of my compatriots. Spechialized forces are mainly needed in "out-of-area" missions. This is anyway something that most of the German public is refusing. Since WWII the vast majority of my compatriots want to have the missions of German millitary being restricted to our own territory for close defense.


Of course these feelings do not meet the reality. Anyway - in difference to Poland German politicians are kept to limit the use of our forces to the absolute exigence. Personally I think this should change since it would be helpful if Germany bring itself into some international processes - with millitary force side by side with your soldiers and others.

Therefore - Congratulations to your freedom fighters.

[Atlantic Bridge]

One thing the Americans could do is move their bases out of Germany and into Poland, which has less population density and greater space to conduct exercises." I'll second that motion.

The funny thing is that most lefties in western Europe are dreaming of that. They would get rid of the hated Americans...

[anonymoussierra]

How are you (((***Atlantic Bridge***)))? time is time.

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[Atlantic Bridge]

time is time.

and vodka is vodka. Cheers!

[lizol]

As far as sky jumping is concerned - I think the previous chaplain general wouldn't do it.



What a parachute it would have to be :-)))

[anonymoussierra]

I am sorry I do not drink.

[anonymoussierra]

:___PPP))))"Step up."

[Red6]

That decision has already been made.

A lot of stuff is moving soon. Example: Friedberg Germany will shut down, that was my old Brigade - and I know that for a fact. It simply takes time to plan and build adequate and suitable infrastructure. Construction in Romania, Bulgaria and Poland is already underway today.

http://usinfo.state.gov/eur/Archive/2005/Nov/04-490927.html (Official US government site) - Just an example.

The US will not completely leave Germany, but slash into the total manpower stationed there considerably (The 2003 level of 105,000 "uniformed" service members will go down - but so will the non-uniformed). Expect announcements to come in 2007 about detailed closures.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q2/nr_030515m.html (Official Boeing site)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/07/20020717-8.html (Official US government site)

It's pretty much a done deal. The new interceptor missiles defending Europe will be based in Poland and Great Britain, not Germany. It's a matter of trust, and the US has more confidence in Poland and Great Britain than Germany; just a simple fact.

As far as exercises are concerned, the US is already conducting training in Poland, Romania and Bulgaria. The degree and scale will increase over time.