Makes one wonder how many of those trolls were being paid by al Qaeda to divert attention from Saddam/al Qaeda to Iran.
Don't know if al Qaida is paying them, but I'm sure someone is.
Posted on 06/15/2006 6:45:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A blueprint for trying to start a war between the United States and Iran was among a "huge treasure" of documents found in the hideout of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqi officials said Thursday.
The document, purporting to reflect al-Qaida policy and its cooperation with groups loyal to ousted President Saddam Hussein, also appear to show that the insurgency in Iraq was weakening.
The al-Qaida in Iraq document was translated and released by Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie. There was no way to independently confirm the authenticity of the information attributed to al-Qaida.
Although the office of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the document was found in al-Zarqawi's hideout following a June 7 airstrike that killed him, U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said the document had in fact been found in a previous raid as part of an ongoing three-week operation to track al-Zarqawi.
"We can verify that this information did come off some kind of computer asset that was at a safe location," he said. "This was prior to the al-Zarqawi safe house."
The document also said al-Zarqawi planned to try to destroy the relationship between the United States and its Shiite allies in Iraq.
While the coalition was continuing to suffer human losses, "time is now beginning to be of service to the American forces and harmful to the resistance," the document said.
The document said the insurgency was being hurt by, among other things, the U.S. military's program to train Iraqi security forces, by massive arrests and seizures of weapons, by tightening the militants' financial outlets, and by creating divisions within its ranks.
"Generally speaking and despite the gloomy present situation, we find that the best solution in order to get out of this crisis is to involve the U.S. forces in waging a war against another country or any hostile groups," the document said, as quoted by al-Maliki's office.
According to the summary, insurgents were being weakened by operations against them and by their failure to attract recruits. To give new impetus to the insurgency, they would have to change tactics, it added.
"We mean specifically attempting to escalate the tension between America and Iran, and American and the Shiite in Iraq," it quoted the documents as saying, especially among moderate followers of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the most influential Shiite cleric in Iraq.
"Creating disputes between America and them could hinder the U.S. cooperation with them, and subsequently weaken this kind of alliance between Shiites and the Americans," it said, adding that "the best solution is to get America involved in a war against another country and this would bring benefits."
They included "opening a new front" for the U.S. military and releasing some of the "pressure exerted on the resistance."
It pointed to clashes in 2004 between U.S. forces and followers of radical anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi army militia as evidence of the benefits of such a strategy. Al-Sadr and his growing followers are among the fiercest advocates of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.
It said the "results obtained during the struggle between U.S. army and al-Mahdi army is an example of the benefits to be gained by such struggle."
Al-Maliki's office said the document provides "the broad guidelines of the program of the Saddamists and the takfiris inside al-Zarqawi's group."
"Takfiri" is a reference to an extremist ideology that urges Muslims to kill anyone they consider an infidel, even fellow Muslims. It is the ideology that many Iraqis, especially in the Shiite community, use to describe al-Zarqawi and his followers.
The language contained in the document was different from the vocabulary used by al-Qaida statements posted on the Web. For example, it does not refer to the Americans as "Crusaders" nor use the term "rejectionists" to allude to Shiites.
Much of what is in the statement from al-Rubaie echoes results that the U.S. military and the Iraqi government say they are seeking. It also appears to reinforce American and Iraqi arguments that al-Qaida in Iraq and its operatives are a group of imported extremists bent on killing innocent civilians.
Al-Qaida in Iraq has been blamed for thousands of deaths, hundreds of bombings, kidnappings and assassinations in the past three years. Al-Qaida in Iraq's own hatred of the Shiites is well-documented and al-Zarqawi has repeatedly called on Sunnis to rise up and kill them.
Hmm. You're actually making Rummy more appealing.
I'd much rather there be more border patrol agents placed on the border, than disarmed Guardsmen sent there as a temporary election-year publicity stunt. But maybe that's just me.
Buying more time for the Iranian R&D effort...
You do realize that Baghdad's homicide rate is lower than that of Los Angeles?
The trolls on FR are against anything that President Bush and his advisors want to do in the WOT.
Don't know if al Qaida is paying them, but I'm sure someone is.
We have had this discussion with others in the past about who pays the FR trolling moles. Some used to post left wing threads and replies 7 days a week and at least 12 hours per day. Even as a retired grampa, I don't have the time to do that.
Jim Rob and the mods have whacked many of the professional posting trolling moles in the past couple of years.
So who pays them. My first guess would be one of the phoney non profits bought and paid for by George $oreA$$ and his group hedge funders. The next guess would be how much of $oreA$$'s funding money of these pseudo non profits come from Opecker Princes and Thugs who hate America?
Our own Richard Poe has labelled these trolls as Electronic Brownshirts. Their job is to monitor sites like Free Republic and mixed sites re political stances 24/7, and they immediately respond to whatever positive has happened with negative BS and spin doctoring. Or they post ridiculous wet dreams from their pyscho sites to scare us or get us on the wrong track.
Have a great Father's Day!
Their country, their chlice. Refusing gives credence to AQ arguments you've just installed a pro-western puppet.
As does the foolish decision to build the supoer embassy in Vaghdad on prime real estate - very shortsighted and gives the insurgents, AQ and unfriendly media a visible easily recognisable symbol of an 'arrogant enemy presence forced on the Iraqis...many smaller high security complexes would have been better, or one big one outside the central district of the city.
Oops = Typos....
Chlice=choice
supoer=Super
Vaghdad=Baghdad
From what I just read they are building many smaller high security complexes.
The New Embassy
Indeed, the massive $592-million project may be the most lasting monument to the U.S. occupation in the war-torn nation. Located on a on a 104-acre site on the Tigris river where U.S. and coalition authorities are headquartered, the high-tech palatial compound is envisioned as a totally self-sustaining cluster of 21 buildings reinforced to 2.5 times usual standards. Some walls as said to be 15 feet thick or more. Scheduled for completion by June 2007, the installation is touted as not only the largest, but the most secure diplomatic embassy in the world.
The 1,000 or more U.S. government officials calling the new compound home will have access to a gym, swimming pool, barber and beauty shops, a food court and a commissary. In addition to the main embassy buildings, there will be a large-scale US Marine barracks, a school, locker rooms, a warehouse, a vehicle maintenance garage, and six apartment buildings with a total of 619 one-bedroom units. Water, electricity and sewage treatment plants will all be independent from Baghdad's city utilities. The total site will be two-thirds the area of the National Mall in Washington, DC.
Yes, but in one set of walls = 1 building to external Iraqi. A compound like that is sensiblem, but not so close to the heart of things. It looks arrogant and it dislocates the normal business and day to day life of the city. It should have been externalised (eg outskirts of Baghdad) if it's going to be lumped together like that.
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