Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.
The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.
The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.
However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.
“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."
The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”
“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.
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or would you have chosen PEACE, as the tyrant should have???? inquiring minds want to know.
face it, "mr. silverback", you are defending a cheap, scheming, amoral politician who was (sadly) without HONOR, morals or any other laudable trait.
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There's an essay on Sherman in "An Autumn of War" by Victor Davis Hanson. Read it and then get back to me. Sherman saved thousands of Southern lives.
Nicely said.
Out of context? Mr. Lincoln is universally praised, and rightly so, for his eloquence and precision of speech. I'm amazed that anyone would demand "context" from a statement laden with such forceful and declarative adjectives ("ANY people, ANYwhere...ANY portion of such people..."). Mr. Lincoln is never at risk of not having his defenders rise up and interpret for the rest of us what he really meant.
Why is it so difficult to admit that Mr. Lincoln (like all politicians, except that he was considerably better at it than most) was quite capable of saying one thing and doing another?
Even his loopy proponents, like Al Gore's cousin Gore Vidal, who wrote a novel on Lincoln, admits that it's difficult to defend the 1848 statement in light of his later position regarding secession.
There was no 4th MO partisan rangers. What's your explanation for that?
God goes marching on,
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback
Wait one bloody minute. You keep telling us how wonderful the Confederates were and how horrible and evil we Yankees were, yet when I apply a term that means "new confederate" (or, in your world, "new wonderful person who could do no wrong and loved all living things without regard to race, even if they were using some of them as cotton picking machines") you act like I called you a Nazi.
Well, which is it? How come you get to use Yankee as a perjorative and act like Confederate is also a perjorative that wounds your pride?
Yes, sir. But it's heartening to know that times have changed in both sections. A couple of years ago here in my East Texas hometown - we're adjacent to the county that had the largest number of slaves in Texas - a local black Methodist church was about to be evicted from their building because it was about to be condemned as unsafe, and the congregation didn't have the money to fix it. The largest white Methodist congregation in town offered to merge with the black church and share facilities, an offer which was promptly accepted.
Of course, it's stories like this that the national media are loath to report. It's much more fun, you know, to run stories on what little is left of the Klan, marching with the Confederate battleflag, with the unspoken implication that the South hasn't changed a bit.
So, either there was a different CNN story about this issue and you should go to the CNN website and find it and post a link, or we've caught you in another lie. Which is it? Cite a source. Argue facts.
I have seen a fiery gospel writ in rows of burnished steel
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback
Indeed. I wanted to name our second son after Joshua Chamberlain, but when I see the Confederate flag I just think of a war and people like Lee and Jackson, not racism.
Race relations are pretty good here in Freeport, though we have some rabblerousers who see everything through the race lens. But despite those relatively good relations, I attend the only fully integrated church in town. It's bizarre how the church has moved so slowly on this, we are still no holds barred the most segreagetd institution in America, and racism isn't the reason. Just makes me scratch my head.
How many would you kill to allow the south to secede and have their own country? As some communist once said, "Revolution is not a tea party."
i neither read nor respond to anything he says, so i have no way of knowing what, if anything, he said to/about me.
he was told both ON & OFF forum that i wouldn't read anything from/about/addressed to him (nonetheless he continues to post to me. talk about "HAS NO LIFE!") thus i don't know or care what he said, though i'm sure based on "past performance" that it was DISHONEST/dumb/MEAN-spirited/ ignorant. as far as i'm concerned he is DEAD.
do me the favor of NOT mentioning him with me in future.
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"paleo-Confederate" i'll happliy accept, as i'm from one of the "old rebel families", who has not forgotten & will not forget "how sweet it was to be free of the DAMNyankees" for about 4 years.
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Generally, when pressed on this mystifying portrait of Lincoln that he spews, he'll tell you that, during his graduate students days, he managed to see some "origional" documents that are generally kept hidden by the leftist-statist academic elite. These academics are, by the way, laughing at you as they promote a false picture of Lincoln to the publicly-schooled.
Naturally this is all said in Standwatian.
2. It was up to those seceding to choose peace. They chose to secede because they were afraid of what Lincoln might do. You can't have your cake and eat it too. What if they had chosen to stay in the Union and see what he would do? After all, as you say, they had no reason to believe he was an abolitionist.
3. If I were Lincoln I would have considered firing on Fort Sumter an act of war. I also would have fired McClellan early on. All actions after that would depend on events. And since the toll was not into the "millions," your question is based on a false premise.
no big surprise.
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Let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with his heel
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback
i've given it all the importance it deserves = ZILCH.
free dixie,sw
i've given it all the importance it deserves = ZILCH.
free dixie,sw
Nice dodgeball. You should play professionally.
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