Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.
The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.
The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.
However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.
“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."
The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”
“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.
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But I thought once they seceded they weren't Americans anymore. You're trying to have your American cake and secede from it, too.
Fat chance of that ever happening.
If not for misquotes and quotes out of context the southron side would have no quotes at all.
Well one has to acknowledge that the southern states were inclined to rise up. And they did try to shake off the existing government. But what they lacked was 'having the power'.
Lincoln was stating the obvious, the right to revolution against tyranny is a universal right. People could rebel for any reason, even defense of slavery. But nowhere in that speech did Lincoln state or imply that the existing government was not within it's rights to oppose such revolution.
Taken in context, Lincoln was only reaffriming a peoples right to rebel against a corrupt or tyrannical governemnt I.E. The empire of Mexico, he certainly wasn't talking about insurrection against The United States or even a state government because in it he was supporting our war with Mexico to protect Texas from being retaken by force.
This statement does not conflict with Lincoln's opinion on the United States being a more prefect union since it supports protecting Texas and how it became part of these United States from a force outside of that union (Mexico).
No, my comment was not directed at you--I was describing typical Stand Watie behavior--and I pretty much agree with what you've written here.
It's amazing how long things continued that way in parts of the North, too. I did an article on one of our local aldermen, one of our first elected black officials, who died in an auto accident in 1968. I found out that he had almost gotten his electrician's license pulled on trumped up charges because some people in city government didn't want a black-owned business serving customers in the white areas of town. When the man died, the state police transported his body 27 miles form the hospital he died at, so he wouldn't be prepared for burial at a white funeral home-and then stuck his widow with the transport bill from the ambulance company.
With his thumb, Silverback flipped the red safety guard off the trigger on the control stick. Any second now his gunsight pipper would be on the MiG's tail...
Why? Had they not made clear that they no longer wished to be considered citizens of the United States?
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please note that the northern slave-OWNERS did NOT free their slaves. in the vast majority of cases they sold them, when the PROFIT was gone from the "peculiar institution" in their region.
DAMNyankees have FOREVER been HYPOCRYTES.
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lincoln was about the same sort as "wee willie klintoon, when it came to honesty/morality. PITY, that you don't know that or that you choose to ignore his legion of flaws as a person/leader/president.
neither lincoln nor clinton cared about anything except "getting ahead". BOTH would do ANYTHING to get more power/money.
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If there is room enough for we shall over come , then there is room enough for dixie. The confederate flag is part of American history. Too bad we have bad memories of that time , but nevertheless it did occur. Maybe the guy was from the south, so what!
btw, PLEASE do not capitalize any part of my screen-name, as it is an AmerIndian cultural/religious "thing". no living man is WORTHY to wear the WARname of our tribe's principle hero, thus on the wise advice of our 92YO clan-mother, i have intentionally taken an "diminutive" of his WARname.
using the "term of abuse" of "neo-confederate" marks the user as a FOOL & a south-HATER (the term was "dreamed up" as an intentional insult to southerners by morris dees,the LEFTIST " shyster in chief", of the so-called "southern poverty law center".). that term describes NOTHING, but it says a lot (but nothing good)about the user.
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how many MILLION Americans would YOU have willing killed to stop the south from establishing a new country.
lincoln would have , imVho, been willing to kill EVERYONE to "preserve the union" of the UNwilling, as only POWER was important to him.
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Indeed. Yet most people on both sides, having an exaggerated sense of their own military capabilities, assumed it would be a ninety-day war. Only a few, like W.T. Sherman, and Jefferson Davis, knew better.
You made an assertion, an assertion that was not opinion-based but was supposedly a verifiable fact with a verifiable source. I asked you for that source. Where is it? Cite the article.
He has sounded forth the trumpet that will never call retreat
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback
As a writer who has written on one of his cout cases, I would really be interested to find where you got this info that's 180 degrees from what I found in relaible historical sources.
Not that I'm holding my breath...
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgement seat,
Glory, glory hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and the Schofields,
Mr. Silverback
in case you've forgotten, CNN is a TV cable network. i have neither the time or resources to search the CNN transcripts. (but then you KNEW that, didn't you????)
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