Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.
The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.
The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.
However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.
“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."
The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”
“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.
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free dixie,sw
I've heard of the ones in every single southern state.
face it, N-S you're really good at being an apologist for the northern invaders, but nobody down here is fooled that you are anything but a PROPAGANDIST & a defender of every excess of the DYs.
otoh, you are the ONLY unionist/DY on FR, who has both a sound education & a BRAIN. that makes you both unique & a DANGER to truth.
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NO?? i thought NOT.
nice try, no cigar. (evasiveness is what everyone expects from you.)
btw, NOBODY here is fooled by your usual argument that "you rebs were/are just as bad as we were".
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Nobody is fooled by you, either.
we all knew that, but it is GOOD that you say so.
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according to a recent CNN report, there are more racially/ethnically segregated schools in MA & NY alone, than in ALL the southland COMBINED.
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On 20 December 1820, the South Carolina assembly passed a law prohibiting emancipation of slavess except by the legislature and forbidding the entry of free Negroes or mulattoes into the state after 1 March 1821. Free persons of color who disobeyed the law were given fifteen days to leave and afterwards were subject to a twenty dollar fine. Those who could not pay the fine would be "publicly sold" for a period of up to five years. In 1822, the assembly passed a law prohibited free blacks who left the state from returning.
An 1820 Mississippi law said that every black person in the state was legally presumed to be a slave, and that no black persons but slaves could enter the state.
An 1826 Louisiana Law prevented blacks from entering the state and a later law required all free blacks to leave.
An 1833 Tennessee law provided a $10 per head subsidy for every black removed from the state by the Tennessee Colonization Society.
In 1840 the Texas legislature passed a law requiring any free black entering the state post a $1000 bond. Failure to do so resulted in the person being bound out for a period of one year. An earlier law stating that free blacks were banned entirely from entering the state passed the legislature but wasn't signed by the governor.
During the 1830-31 session the North Carolina legislature passed a law prohibiting the migration of free blacks into the state, as well as the return of such persons if they left the state for more than ninety days.
Now, your turn. Let's see the details of some of those laws you're talking about.
i asked you for actual citations, rather than your usual evasiveness. ORIGONAL SOURCES, (that can be checked), please!
free dixie,sw
i'm NOT inclined to (or have the time to) go do all that research, again.
free dixie,sw
Again? The next time you do any research at all will be your first.
i'd give most everything i own (or will own) to have "Molly" back. she was a GOOD one!
Indeed. Speaking of good mules, back in 1976, as part of the bicentennial celebration, the "Great American Horse Race" was held. Billed as the longest horse race in the world, it began in NY and ended in California, covering 3,000 miles and taking 100 days to complete.
There were almost 100 entrants, and I think about half a dozen riders came from abroad to participate. There were about a dozen different horse breeds, though the most common was Arabian. Each rider was permitted to bring two mounts.
IIRC, less than half the entrants even finished the race. Most of the top 20 finishers rode Arabians. However, the first place finisher (and the oldest rider in the field), Mr. Virl Norton, rode Lord Fauntleroy and Lady Eloise, large mules bred from Thoroughbred mares, all of whom you can see here. You should enlarge that first thumbnail to really appreciate their good looks. (And I'll try to stay on topic from here on out.)
Only we're not talking about Quantrill's 1863 mass murder. We're talking about the 1856 "Sacking of Lawrence." You might want to inform yourself on the subject. Look up the Wakarusa War while you're at it.
a direct descendant of PVT William J (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers
As usual, any time you give something like a verifiable detail, it falls apart under the lightest scrutiny; There's apparently no such unit as the "4th MO PARTISAN RANGERS" Here's a list of the actual Missouri partisan ranger and guerilla units:
MISSOURI PARTISAN RANGERS
Coleman's Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers (Coleman's Missouri Regiment Cavalry)(NA)
Lawther's Missouri Regiment Partisan Rangers (NA)( see also 10th Missouri Cavalry)
Quantrill's Missouri Company (guerrilla command) (NA)
Capt. Woodson's Missouri Company, Cavalry (NA)
1st NE Missouri Cavalry
2nd NE Missouri Cavalry
10th Missouri Cavalry
Wood's Missouri Cavalry
Tracy's Missouri Cavalry1st
Missouri Battalion Partisan Rangers
Marmaduke's Missouri Company, (The Macon Rangers
McDonald's Missouri Company, (Ralls County Rangers
Schnable's Missouri Cavalry (NA)
Pool's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Adair's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Holt's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Colonel Jackson's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Col. Jeffers' Partisan Rangers
Capt. Johnson's Missouri Partisan Ranger Company
Major Livingston's Missouri Scouts
Lt. Col. Maddox's Missouri Partisan Rangers
MISSOURI GUERRILLA UNITS
William T. (Bloody Bill) Anderson's Guerrilla Command
Baker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Alf Bolin's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Boone's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Bowles' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Downey's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel Elliot's Missouri Partisan Rangers
Gabbert's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Goode's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hadley's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hart's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hildebrand's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Doc Himes' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hutchinson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jackman's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Jeans' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rector Johnson' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hyde Johnson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kane's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Keisengro's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Kendrick's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Joe Kirk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Maddox's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marchbank's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Marmaduke's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Mathews' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Capt. Nevins' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Osburn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Overson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Parcel's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Major Pool's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Potter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Price's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Purcell's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rafter's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Reid's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Rucker's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Ruff's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Small's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Smith's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Stacy's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Steward's Missouri Guerrilla Command
(Coon) Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Woodson Thornton's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Todd's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Turk's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vanzoot's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Vaughn's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Watson's Missouri Guerrilla Command
West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Hinch West's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Colonel White's Missouri Guerrilla Command
Yeates' Missouri Guerrilla Command
Zeigler's Missouri Guerrilla Command
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
For Joshua Chamberlain and John M. Schofield,
Mr. Silverback
Do not hold your breath waiting. Supporting evidence is for other people; stand expects us to take him at his word.
Heh-heh! Well you know, it's not a confirmed kill until the guy had expilicitly refused to post evidence...:-)
In space no one can hear you whistle "Dixie."
stand, you are everything I would be if I was a DU troll trying to disgrace conservatives on The Free Republic.
And your neo confederrrr.... buddy, Stainless banner is the agent provocateur that starts these threads for you and your's to post on.
No small wonder he refuses to engage me in an open debate and actually cowers in a corner when I challenge him with straight forward logic.
Dear HappyMouse:
Corrupt Cowing has gotten more brave while the cat's been away. Still, staying focused amidst busy schedules seems more important. The next project seems to be to try to get the Mars Society convention in D.C. to invite (as a featured guest speaker) Brant Sponberg from the Centennial Challenges office. I'll be working on it as scarce time allows. Centennial Challenges hasn't had a visible venue in D.C. outside of NASA HQ in over 2 years. Cowing will conceivably not even appear at that event as he recently picked on Zubrin. To fortify the prizes movement in his own backyard could have an impact, though.
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