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Ann Coulter Was Wrong
Accuracy In Media ^ | 6/13/2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates

In the controversy over Ann Coulter's comments about the group of 9/11 widows, there is one critical question, from the point of view of ensuring standards of accuracy in the media. How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." There is no evidence whatsoever that those women enjoyed their husbands' deaths, and Coulter offers none. The only "evidence" for this preposterous and hurtful claim is that the women became activists and sought the media spotlight and took a political position at odds with that of Coulter. But what does that prove?

I think Coulter probably would have been correct to say that the women appeared to enjoy the media attention. You don't go on these shows unless you enjoy them to some degree. But enjoying a death? And the death of a loved one when fatherless children were left behind? Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women.

In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions.

SNIP

If the matter only involved personal opinions about people or things, Coulter's comments wouldn't really be newsworthy or significant. But she is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11. That is why the comments have generated so much outrage—except from a few conservatives unwilling to criticize her.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; annhaters; cliffkincaid; coulter; crazycoulter; cruelcoulter; jealousloser; jeffwho; omniscientann; who
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To: Mike Bates
Here she states, "I've never seen...". This sounds like an observation on her part. This is not "claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women", as preposterously purported by this Kincaid character. She states this is what it looks like to her, and that's what she put down on paper.

The Left is trying mightily to push her words into the area of "hate speech", thereby making her guilty of a "hate crime". They should pursue this right after they do so with Schumers' "bullet to the head" thing. Not before.

In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter.

This, from another obvious graduate of the Dan Rather School of Journalism!

If nothing else, these guys do have entertainment value!

CA....

81 posted on 06/13/2006 3:26:42 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
You obviously didn't read the book. Her meaning was clear, and would be more so to many if they would just read the damn book. The statements surrounding the famous quotes make her intentions more than clear.
82 posted on 06/13/2006 3:26:56 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: RobRoy
Heh, heh. Did you see my post 22?

YES! AFTER I posted mine! sheesh... got the definition from dictionary.com. :) you're fast!

83 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:36 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Pukin Dog
The problem is that many of you do not understand that there are TWO definitions of the word 'enjoy'. The popular definition is: To seek pleasure from.... The other definition, and the one that Coulter used is: To gain benefit from....

Congratulations on the winning the Definition of Is Prize.

I value honesty--not honesty unless it makes one of our own look bad.

Spin is spin, no matter who's doing it.

84 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:43 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Peach
Anyone who doesn't tow the party line that Ann is brilliant and SHOULD attack widows with baseless innuendo gets attacked here.

Good grief! Talk about hyperbole. At first I was criticizing Ann for being over the top with this line, but the more I see quotes like this the more I'm convinced that she has made a pretty good point.

85 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:46 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Echo Talon

Others did too. I have a feeling Ann did when she said it. She is just baiting the left to call her on it, then POW, "here is what it means you liberal meatheads".


86 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:55 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Sam Hill

Probably a jilted ex-boyfriend.


87 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:56 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (Left's reaction to "GODLESS": "They haven't hated a book this much since the Bible." (pissant))
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To: Peach

Since you asked me,I will let you display the common courtesy of providing the required quote. But don't take long or you may not get a timely reply.


88 posted on 06/13/2006 3:28:08 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Darkwolf377

"If these women were appearing to support the war effort, we'd be lavishing them with praise, and we'd be slamming the DUmmies who attacked them for "standing on their husband's corpses" for political action."

Yes


89 posted on 06/13/2006 3:28:12 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: RobRoy
Well stated
90 posted on 06/13/2006 3:28:24 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Well said, as always, Seattle. Since some of the more egregious statements have been all over every facet of the media, it's unlikely the kids haven't heard their dead fathers were going to divorce their mothers.

That's not compassionate, conservative or Christian. It's vicious.
91 posted on 06/13/2006 3:28:38 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Words have meaning.


92 posted on 06/13/2006 3:28:53 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Pukin Dog
The other definition, and the one that Coulter used is: To gain benefit from....

Clearly, Ann is too smart for some Freepers.

93 posted on 06/13/2006 3:29:15 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (Left's reaction to "GODLESS": "They haven't hated a book this much since the Bible." (pissant))
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To: Echo Talon
He/she is upset that Coulter has exposed and destroyed his church and faith(darwinism)

Nope. If you read the threads, much smarter people than I have demolished her populist arguments against evolution. She just threw in a chapter about evolution because she knows that's an evangelical, home schooler hot button that would rake in more book sales.

94 posted on 06/13/2006 3:29:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Peach
She did no such thing, oh Peachy one.

She said, and I quote "How do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce them?"

To me, she is suggesting that we don't know if these women had good marriages or not. Sure, it is a subtle difference, but you cant say from that, that she is suggesting anything.

95 posted on 06/13/2006 3:29:27 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: sinkspur
What slander?

From your post #7: "Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated."

From your post #17: "It's called Coulterism: if Ann can make up facts about 9/11 widows, facts can be made up about her." (bold added).

Pointing out your self-acknowledged slander is not "pissy." To the contrary, you are getting "pissy" now that you have been caught.

96 posted on 06/13/2006 3:30:00 PM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: Mike Bates

Actually Ann supplies ample evidence that the Jersey Girls are enjoying their husband's death. The problem is that people do not understand English, let alone politics.

Let's say my wife died and I got a big life insurance pay-out. Since the kids are grown, I take the money and travel the world. I start living an opulent life style. I even make a few TV spots on life styles of the Rich and Famous. Would it not be fair to say I am “enjoying my wife’s death”? Certainty! If fact some of my wife’s family and friends may even criticize me for not paying more reverence to her death and instead spending the money willy-nilly.

Ann gives ample evidence in her book that the Jersey Girl’s are enjoying their husband’s death form the perspective that they have clearly taken advantage of the death to advance their politics and enrich their lives.

Furthermore, Ann is not the first to take a shot at the celebrity hood of the 911 widows. I would refer you to Law and Order, Season 15, episode 327. A clear shot at the 911 millionaires. Law and order is not a bastion of conservative thought.


97 posted on 06/13/2006 3:30:09 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: RobRoy

'What we seem to have here is a lack of understanding of the meaning of the word "enjoy".'

Exactly. Coulter has her critics tied in knots because, while SHE knows more then the first meaning of words, they won't use a dictionary to save themselves. These people are journalists and don't know what enjoy means?


98 posted on 06/13/2006 3:30:20 PM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: VRWCmember

Can you not see that those of us thinking Ann was over the top with some of those statements are being attacked? On this thread and various others?

So you'll just have to point out which part of my post is hyperbole.


99 posted on 06/13/2006 3:30:27 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: outlawcam

yep.


100 posted on 06/13/2006 3:30:32 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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