An 'Inconvenient' statement (ROGER EBERT STILL WHINING ABOUT WEIRD AL)

Chicago Sun-Times - The "Bright" One ^ | June 11, 2006 | Roger Ebert

[TradicalRC]

Or it is happening and then assume that it is caused by man rather than natural processes. Further assume that we can do Anything to reverse the trend.

[hosepipe]

[ What I fail to understand is why global warming should be a liberal or conservative issue. It is either happening or is not, and we can either take action to try to slow it, or we cannot. That is why a great many conservatives have agreed with Gore on this ]

Roger you really are dumb.. I mean D.U.M.B....

The earth has be warming for thousands of years else the Great Lakes would be frozen to the bottom.. jeeze..

[TradicalRC]

You Rock!

[TradicalRC]

Yet he actually found someone to the left of himself in Richard Roeper!

[ikka]

I cannot get into a scientific discussion here.

Which is precisely the problem.

[TradicalRC]

Of course, many scientists also have an agenda: continuance of their research grant gravy-train.

Excellent point. No news about global warming is NOT good news for scientists who want to suck at the government teat.

[TradicalRC]

Actually, I didn't care for E.T.

[TradicalRC]

The only movie critic out there who's not just a movie critic, but smart as heck, is Michael Medved.

I know he's on the conservative side of the issue most times, but years back when I first heard him he recommended a movie called Ramblin' Rose. I thought it was a bomb and never bothered to listen to his advice on movies either.

[Moonman62]

how is it determned how thick a no longet existent ice sheet was 120,000 years ago?

How do you know the light goes off in the refrigerator when you close the door?

[Nightrider]

oh...the ice is on a switch...? guage?

exactly what's your point?

[Moonman62]

My point is it's possible to know things we can't see directly.

[RightWingAtheist]

Damn, I was hoping Rog would respond to the Answer Man question I sent in. It was about the recent death of The Third Man star Aida Valli, so I thought he would be all hyped about answering it.

[HungarianGypsy]

I don't care much for E.T. now. But, at the age of 7 it was a big deal. ;-)

[Savage Beast]

You make good points, C, and what you say is true. However, I'm not advocating a controlled press--certainly not government controlled, quite the contrary. As you point out, the chaos of multiple opinions is healthy.

However, I do condemn the degeration of the established news media, i.e. established before, say, the 1980's, into a propaganda machine, through which its multiple agents and outlets speak as a single voice, and not a voice dedicated to truth for its own sake, but a voice committed to propaganda, and to be more specific, to propaganda designed to promote a specific agenda and viewpoint and to persuede the public to commit to them also.

If an important issue should arise, e.g. if Global Warming should be as great a threat as Al Gore insists, the people could not be blamed for ignoring the warnings of a newsmedia that they have learned to mistrust.

[Barnacle]

That's why you're just a movie critic.

And, he doesn't even do that well.

[finnman69]

how is it determned how thick a no longet existent ice sheet was 120,000 years ago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moraine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier

[Nightrider]

thanks, but i believe you misunderstand: i don't argue about the existence of glaciers and the evidence of how far they extended..i'm simply saying that the 'fact' theat the ice sheet was 'over a mile thick' is simply hypothesis along with a lot of other deductions made by geologists and evolutionists...if they can pursuade enough of their colleagues of a particular hypothesis, then that is the 'accepted' 'fact of the moment' by the scientific community, readu to change when a 'better' explanation occurrs.....until then though they discuss it as 'fact'.....

[finnman69]

I knew what you were getting at.

I think there is physical evidence, not just asusmptions including sea level, geological formations, silt deposits, etc

http://www.state.nd.us/ndgs/Rebound/Glacial%20Rebound.htm

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

The Euro-Socialists have been trying to convince the world they can control the weather for centiruies.

[Nightrider]

thank you, i appreciate the time you took with this....my position is simply that scientists have hypothesis based upon how they assimilate/interpetate the 'evidence'....you may well be right, and the sheet may actually have been a mile thick...the point is though that much of science is hypothetical....for instance, when i was in grade school (oh...back in the late 60's/70's) the dinosaur 'family' was about 20 or so, there was the tyrannosaur, stegosaurus, brontosaurus...etc, etc,..all in drab grey, now there are literally hundred's of them, and the discover channel has an entire season devoted to 'walking with dinosaurs'...it's neat for kids as a fiction, which is what it is, but the dc makes out what they narrate as fact....and also dinosaurs now are all colors of the rainbow, there's no evidence they are anything but grey, but it makes for good tv.....point of fact is that we make a lot of conjecture, not always on evidence (ie 'lucy', as you probably know), and we preach it as fact, when it's as phoney as a three dollar bill.....