Lawyer: Marine Denies Haditha Massacre

TBO.com | June 11, 2006

[USS Alaska]

Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?

[heylady]

This account still doesn't make me feel comfortable with what happened. Is this how war is? They go into a house and "clear" it because a marine saw " insurgent age men" run away and enter a house. Trust me I am not anti war or anti military. My own son will be going back to Iraq in the fall. Someone please help me understand why this is acceptable military action.

[Kaslin]

Ping

[Lib-Lickers 2]

same SOP as in Fallujah as far as I can tell,, they were under ambush attack as far as they could tell,, if they had had an M1 tank they would have blasted the house in a million pieces and come out with the same result

what happened to the stories of lining people up making them kneel and blowing them away at point blank range?

[AmeriBrit]

BTTT

[Stars&StripesNE]

But Mrutha said the Marines slaughtered civillians in cold blood. Surely a decorated war hero like that would never jump to conclusions for political gain . ( /sarcasm )

[patj]

This is what happens when cowardly insurgents hide behind women and children.

[Beckwith]

Is this how war is?

Yes. Bad things happen in war.

[Jacquerie]

Unlike our cops in the US, the Marine sop allows firing on those who run away once ordered to stop. They can also chase them down.

Shots came from a house they quickly cleared and unfortunately some innocents were killed.

It is not the Marines fault that Baathist irregulars use the local civilian population for cover.

If Cpl Wuterich's version of events is essentially accurate, I expect our side to ream the likes of Murtha, Kerry, the Beast, old media, and the original purveyors of the lie. Several Marines careers have been destroyed and members of the squad are awaiting possible indictments. Our men are asked to do the near impossible every day, they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

[greasepaint]

keep in mind that it is likely the insurgents
had an escape route planned in advance,
going thru several houses,
in effect using the residents of those houses
as human shields,
giving the marines a difficult choice to make.

[Toadman]

Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?

I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to the punch! I wonder if murtha would apologize if Haditha is proven a hoax. I doubt it.

[armydawg1]

This case is coming apart faster than the Frat party accusations at Duke.

At Duke: No DNA? No problem White American males were present, case closed.

At Hadiatha: No proof? No problem. White American males were present, case closed.

[Toadman]

This account still doesn't make me feel comfortable with what happened. Is this how war is? They go into a house and "clear" it because a marine saw " insurgent age men" run away and enter a house.

I'd rather chase them down and kill them while they're off balance than to let them regroup to attack and kill again later. It is terrible innocents may have died, but I refuse to believe that our Marines lined up and executed them until it is proven beyond reasonable doubt that it did occur.

Thank you to you and your son. You for raising a fine young Marine and your son for serving.

[Toadman]

Mae Culpa... Thanks for raising a fine young serviceman, and thank him for serving :-)

[quadrant]

The blame for this incident needs to be placed at its source: those who initiated a campaign of guerrilla war.
If one fights along a fixed battle line - such as happened during Desert Storm - civilian casualties can be kept low.
But if one chooses to fight a guerrilla war of ambush and hide among the civilian population, civilian casualties will result.
Once one makes this choice, the responsibility for the consequences falls on the person making the choice.
No one compelled the insurgents to chose a campaign of guerrilla war; they chose it because they wanted it; and the responsibility is theirs.
Does this responsibility mean that the other side can roam through the countryside murdering people at will?
Of course not, but the vagaries of combat make it all but certain that incidents such as the one at Haditha will occur.

[jpsb]

from another thread when the story broke,

Bump as a Marine (long inactive) myself I find it very hard to believe the worst of these reports. One thing I member from my days is the absolute importance all Marines put on the honor of the Marine Corps. No Marine would willing stain that honor. Execution style killings of women and children by any Marine is simply unthinkable. No freaking way. Bad stuff does happen, mistakes are made, war is hell. I will wait on the truth, which I suspect is far different then what I am reading in the MSM lately.

[Non-Sequitur]

Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?

Neither because both have their agenda. I'll wait for the official report from the current investigation that the Marine Corps is conducting.

[DAC22]

I suspect the drive by Media will have a last second surprise guest on the Sunday shows today. None other than the human piece of crap John Murtha in full COA / spin mode.

[DAC22]

oops CYA