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So for you, liberty is the ability to buy a porno mag and masturbate. Is that it? Yeah, I'd lay down my life for that kind of "freedom."

Damn straight. My freedom to do what I want, when I want, so long as I harm or defraud no one, is EXACTLY the kind of freedom worth killing and dying for.

And my first-born son will be shipping out to Iraq in a few months to fight the barbarians on their home turf, to defend my right (and yours, by the way) to do just that!

It's LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, not "Freedom for me, but not for thee".

Is it just me, or are you and yours advocating the imposition of a theocratic state in America? If so, then the Culture War is about to have a second front opened up.

We libertarian Republicans sided with the Christian Right to form a coalition to defeat the totalitarian, America-hating Socialists. Do not push us. Make no mistake - we will leave you out to dry if it appears that you are pushing for authoritarian rule.

Damn straight. My freedom to do what I want, when I want, so long as I harm or defraud no one, is EXACTLY the kind of freedom worth killing and dying for.

So for you, spankin' the monkey is worth killing and dying for? That's an amazingly pathetic statement.

And my first-born son will be shipping out to Iraq in a few months to fight the barbarians on their home turf, to defend my right (and yours, by the way) to do just that!

Neither I nor you have a right to obscenity. I don't subscribe to Larry Flynt's perverse version of the First Amendment.

It's LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, not "Freedom for me, but not for thee".

The "right to masturbate/right to porn" never existed in this country until the 1960s. Every SCOTUS decision up to that point affirmed that obscenity is not protected under the Constitution. Notice:

Chaplinsky vs. New Hampshire (1942):
"There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or 'fighting' words....It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

Also:

Roth vs. The United States (1957)

"Obscenity is not within the area of constitutionally protected freedom of speech or press--either (1) under the First Amendment, as to the Federal Government, or (2) under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, as to the States.... In the light of history, it is apparent that the unconditional phrasing of the First Amendment was not intended to protect every utterance.... The protection given speech and press was fashioned to assure unfettered interchange of ideas for the bringing about of political and social changes desired by the people.... All ideas having even the slightest redeeming social importance--unorthodox ideas, controversial ideas, even ideas hateful to the prevailing climate of opinion--have the full protection of the guaranties, unless excludable because they encroach upon the limited area of more important interests; but implicit in the history of the First Amendment is the rejection of obscenity as utterly without redeeming social importance.

Is it just me, or are you and yours advocating the imposition of a theocratic state in America?

It's just you. I don't want some phony "sexual liberty" trumping true religious liberty--which is already happening all across this country.

If so, then the Culture War is about to have a second front opened up.

Yawn. If you think porn is worth killing for, you're already my enemy.

We libertarian Republicans sided with the Christian Right to form a coalition to defeat the totalitarian, America-hating Socialists.

What, all 15 of you?

Do not push us. Make no mistake - we will leave you out to dry if it appears that you are pushing for authoritarian rule.

Authoritarian? You mean like a guy in a black robe demanding that children not be allowed to pray in school? Or mandating that a strip club be permitted to operate in a town that voted overwhelmingly to ban it? Or insisting that a state accept two men as "married"? Or demanding that a monument in the shape of a cross be taken down from public land? Those kinds of authoritarians?

Damn straight. My freedom to do what I want, when I want, so long as I harm or defraud no one, is EXACTLY the kind of freedom worth killing and dying for.

It is a myth that pornography harms no one. And true freedom is the liberty to do right, not to do "whatever I want", that is license.

It's just burning these guys up that the war against Islamofascism is going to do to their Big Government Comstockery what the war against Naziism did to genteel anti-Semitism (i.e. banish it from polite society because it has been perceived to be merely a "lite" form of an unspeakable evil).