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The Death of U.S. Jobs
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/7/06 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 06/09/2006 6:38:40 AM PDT by ProCivitas

The May payroll jobs report released June 2 by the Bureau of Labor Statistics confirms the jobs pattern for the 21st century U.S. economy: Employment growth is limited to domestic services.

In May, the economy created only 67,000 private sector jobs. Job estimates for the previous two months were reduced by 37,000.

The new jobs are as follows: Professional and business services, 27,000; education and health services, 41,000; waitresses and bartenders, 10,000.

Manufacturing lost 14,000 jobs.

Total hours worked in the private sector declined in May. Manufacturing hours worked are 6.6 percent less than when the recovery began four-and-one-half years ago.

American economists and policymakers are in denial about the effect of jobs offshoring on U.S. employment. Corporate lobbyists have purchased fraudulent studies from economists that claim offshoring results in more U.S. employment, rather than less.

The same lobbyists have spread disinformation that the United States does not graduate enough engineers and that they must import foreigners on work visas. Lobbyists are currently pushing, as part of the immigration bill, an expansion in annual H-1B work visas from 65,000 to 115,000.

The H-1B is a nonimmigrant classification used by an alien who will be employed temporarily in a specialty occupation.

A specialty occupation requires specialized knowledge, along with at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent. Such occupations include architecture or engineering.

The alleged "shortage" of U.S. engineering graduates is inconsistent with reports from Duke University that 30 percent to 40 percent of students in its masters of engineering management program accept jobs outside the profession.

About one-third of engineering graduates from MIT go into careers outside their field.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anothernoob; corporatism; economy; useconomy
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1 posted on 06/09/2006 6:38:41 AM PDT by ProCivitas
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Blah blah blah...


2 posted on 06/09/2006 6:40:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: ProCivitas

Funny, we can't even find engineers to hire. Everyone with any talent is already working 60 hours a week and getting big raises to stay with their firms.

PCR lives in a fantasy land.


3 posted on 06/09/2006 6:42:10 AM PDT by pissant
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To: ProCivitas

The above article is an excerpt. The piece continues at the NewsMax site.


4 posted on 06/09/2006 6:43:58 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? ; Who benefits? By what right/authority ?)
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To: ProCivitas
"About one-third of engineering graduates from MIT go into careers outside their field."

And get paid handsomely for it. Lots of those folks use their engineering expertise for roles in consulting or other areas not specifically aligned to "engineering" but where their knowledge gained is still put to effective use.

5 posted on 06/09/2006 6:44:17 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Back to lurking...)
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To: ProCivitas
The loss of Manufacturing jobs is a world wide phenomenon due to increased efficiency.

It parallels the loss for farming jobs as they became more efficient in the 20th century.

About 20%-30% of Engineers become Managers which is a normal career path; And many go in sales which is not exactly engineering...
6 posted on 06/09/2006 6:45:32 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Sam's Army
And get paid handsomely for it. Lots of those folks use their engineering expertise for roles in consulting or other areas not specifically aligned to "engineering" but where their knowledge gained is still put to effective use.

Really? You mean that 1/3rd isn't going to work as cashiers at McDonald's?

7 posted on 06/09/2006 6:47:23 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: ProCivitas

You won't believe this little gem. Is it any wonder why we are losing jobs?

Immigration enforcement is “anti-union?”


This is one of the things that happens when a nation tolerates the breaking of its laws;

“A group of immigrant workers, some of whom are in the United States illegally, claim a Redford Township auto supplier fired them because they were trying to join the United Auto Workers. But the company says they were fired because they could not provide valid Social Security cards.

The UAW and the Interfaith Committee for Worker Justice, an immigrant rights group in Detroit, are helping the fired workers file a complaint against the supplier, Hope Global Industries, with the National Labor Relations Board.”

The Detroit News


8 posted on 06/09/2006 6:47:31 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: pissant

I work for a large engineering company, we've booked a record amount of work this year, and, even though I'm only an intern, they've got me working 11 hour days and Saturdays too. The pay is really good as it is, then you factor in the time-and-a-half, and I'll be sitting pretty when I go to finish up my last semester in the fall. They've already extended a full-time offer, which appears to be very good.

I know mine is just one field among many, but "Hoover economy" my @$$.

Speaking of which, I need to get back to work. Darn FreeRepublic!!! =P


9 posted on 06/09/2006 6:48:31 AM PDT by Zeppelin (You've been Zarqed !)
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To: ProCivitas

Weird. My company is giving hefty signing bonuses to engineers graduating this year.

But NewsMax said it the job market sucks, so it HAS to be true.


10 posted on 06/09/2006 6:49:33 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: conservativecorner

Its a loss of UNION jobs......look at Delphi....$80,000 a year to screw in bolts.....sorry....to much...I would take it elseware also


11 posted on 06/09/2006 6:50:05 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Strategerist

Gosh, I wish they would. I bet I could at least understand what they were saying to me!
susie


12 posted on 06/09/2006 6:50:33 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Mikey_1962

Just as there's a collection of people that just can't get past, psychologically, anything other than a precious metal being "real"there's a collection of people that can't get past, psychologically, the idea that any job where you aren't physically making something isn't a "real" job.

One of my high school friends has an engineering degree, and is making good money as a salesman for an industrial air conditioning company. In PCR's delusional fantasy world he's cleaning carpets or delivering pizzas.


13 posted on 06/09/2006 6:52:15 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: ProCivitas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1645005/posts

Here is a thread (posted on the 7th) on the same article.


14 posted on 06/09/2006 6:53:36 AM PDT by Daralundy
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To: ProCivitas

My Son is a mechanical engineer grad from Ga Tech and says the demand for engineers is still strong.


15 posted on 06/09/2006 6:54:14 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: ProCivitas

When the Democrats retake the House and Senate, they will fix this by socking it to businesses that out-source. Look for heavy taxes to be levied on income derived from outsourced products or services. Democrats know where the money is and they will get it to buy votes from the unemployed. That's why the Republicans will lose power. There aren't enough millionaires to win elections. The Democrats have the minorities and the poor. The Republicans were fortunate to have the Christian right and other conservatives co-opt their party since Ronald Reagan, but with country-club Republicans and "compassionate conservatives" running the show the last five years, social conservatives and fiscal conservatives aren't as interested in the Republican Party as they once were. Without them, Republicans will wander in the wilderness as the clueless minority they were before 1980, if they survive at all.


16 posted on 06/09/2006 6:54:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Zeppelin; Dog Gone

Another Chicken Little echo! Drool


17 posted on 06/09/2006 6:55:23 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: ProCivitas

All depends on skill levels....


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1974318


18 posted on 06/09/2006 6:57:31 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Sam's Army
And get paid handsomely for it. Lots of those folks use their engineering expertise for roles in consulting or other areas not specifically aligned to "engineering" but where their knowledge gained is still put to effective use.

Are you saying that grads right out school have the "engineering expertise" to go into consulting? I don't buy it for a minute.

19 posted on 06/09/2006 7:00:27 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: ProCivitas
Manufacturing lost 14,000 jobs.

They still don't get it. Loss of Manufacturing jobs and many other jobs is not only due to Labor, or Education for that matter.

EPA,EEOC, OSHA,TAXES, OUT OF CONTROL LAWYERS, FRDERAL REGULATIONS, LOCAL REGULATIONS, ON AND ON.

The government is not Business friendly.

20 posted on 06/09/2006 7:02:16 AM PDT by BIGZ
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