Posted on 06/09/2006 6:05:22 AM PDT by nckerr
PALMYRA, Pa. - Parents who visit their children at lunch would be required to eat school food rather than bring the children fast-food lunches under a proposed wellness policy in the Palmyra Area School District.
That doesn't set well with some parents. Lori Swisher, who has three children at Forge Road Elementary School, agreed the schools don't need soda machines or daily doughnuts, but bristled at "one more government restriction."
Swisher said she occasionally has brought pizza or a sub to her kids at school. "I like to think I serve mostly healthy meals, but when all three have sports, sometimes fast food is the option," she said.
The school board will vote June 15 on the guidelines, which Collene Van Noord, director of curriculum and instruction, said is part of a nationwide effort to combat childhood obesity by teaching healthy eating and exercise habits.
Proposed changes include limiting the selection of a la carte treats in the cafeterias and encouraging healthier treats for classroom holiday parties for Valentine's Day and Halloween. "We're not saying no cupcakes and birthday treats," Van Noord said, but veggies and fruit will be encouraged.
Why? You think private schools don't have the right to do the same thing? My kid goes to private school for a multitude of reasons, and I'd have no issue at all with them banning fast food from their premises... in fact, they'd be freeer to do it that public schools because no one can claim its violating their civil rights.
If not, you are hopelessly authoritarian. If so, on to another subject on a different thread.
This has turned into a food thread, but it's really a freedom vs nanny-state thread.
I am not even going to try to figure that all out. :)
My children have PE every other day. On the alternate day they switch off between music and art. They only have one recess here in GA, which was a huge shock, because in CA, they played before school, and had a morning, lunchtime, and afternoon recess.
Who are you the Thread monitor? The liberals on this thread can go elsewhere for all I care.
As for telling me what to do, anyone can try to run your life and tell you what to do. The key factor is the substance of what "they" are saying and whether or not you do it. If I don't agree, then I will not follow any piece of SHIITE legislation.
I live in Ga too, personally, I believe alot of the behavior problems would be solved as well if they let the kids have more down time to run off steam. In some schools, they have stopped playing on the playground all together by making the kids walk the walking track. It's ridiculous, one kid skins their knee playing basketball or gets their feelings hurt they ban it all together. And as for the food thing, my mom cooked everything from scratch as well, we drank whole milk, real butter, lots of red meat, mashed potatoes, lasagna, desserts, etc. things that you would only consider serving once in while because of the fat grams. But mommy didn't drive us down the street to a friends house. We had bikes, if you didn't ride your bike you walked or you stayed home. When we were kids we played outside all day, and you took your lumps too from the older kids, it was that or you had to tell your mom and she'd give you the choice of work it out or you can stay inside with her and clean. Its the dang 200 channels geared to kids & video games (they put your kid into some kind of a trance). Free babysitting. And as for being active with my kids in sports, we still eat dinner together everynight. I've learned alot about casseroles, crockpots and preparing ahead of time.
Again, your logic seems to escape me, but let me just say this - if thru my postings you see me as authoritarian or in favor of more gov't manipulation of our lives, then you're seeing something that's just not there.
I wasn't aware that there was such a thing. So, no.
Just highlighting the liberals and authoritarians for all to see.
There is no logic involved. Just a simple observation of what you said. You asked where I got the idea you were supporting the idea. I showed you.
You subsequently said you didn't mean that. I took your word for it. You seem to be having trouble accepting that. Oh well. Carry on.
>>>>I am not even going to try to figure that all out. :)
Don't even try. And if I tried to reexplain which post I thought I was commenting too off of what post and train of thought...it would be a bloody mess.
>>>My children have PE every other day.
Hold onto that. Fight them tooth and nail if they try to reduce it. The loss of recess and gym is what I am trying to point out is the issue vs. the dictating of the foods.
Bumping that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some people do have to be told what to do. Take a look around you. Go to the inner city, to the ghettos, to the bread lines. Take a look at some of the low-level worker drones and laborers. Look at their various addictions, their failures, their lack of knowledge concerning even basic subjects (their own finances, health, nutrition, why motivation is required for personal success, etc). Whether through ignorance, poor impulse control, willful stupidity, poor choices, various addictions, or just plain bad luck, a lot of people who are at these levels (and who remain there) will be there forever unless someone tells them how to get out (or in many cases, forces them).
If they weren't forced into civilization by government regulation (schooling, basic decency enforced by laws, etc), many people would live like animals. In fact, some do anyway.
Thanks again Hillary. Or is it Adolf?
Well, I'm not going to tell you what to do (as you want to do to others), but why don't you describe the line between yourself and Karl Marx?
That act in itself could settle things.
Okay, very good, thanks, that explains it, no harm done.
My kids are heavily involved in sports, its a family thing. My husband coaches, my older sons help when time allows. We also have dinner together as a family which I cook. I think part of the problem with overweight kids is they don't do anything. Starting physical activity early in life tends to stay with you as an adult. Although, sitting like a couch potato will stay with you as well. As for organized sports, my kids have worked very hard to excel in sports, I have 2 teenage boys, right now its summer, they're in bed early everynight because they have practice every morning. They don't hang at the mall or sit around doing nothing. They have specific goals regarding their sports, basketball and football, in order to play they MUST STAY IN SHAPE AND GET GOOD GRADES. In the long run, keeping them busy has kept them focused and out of serious trouble.
I didn't like hot dogs when I was a kid. Then I started 4th grade in a new school and what did they have for lunch on the first day? Yup, hot dogs. So I dutifully ate my hot dog and went back to class and suddenly felt a little queasy, and.... BLEEEAAAGH! All over the class room floor. Hadn't thought about that in a while, thankfully.
Did I say that? No. Not even close.
Which just goes to show that governmental control doesn't work anyway. The people who would obey the laws are going to anyway and the ones who don't won't so there's no point in making them. All it does is make life harder for those who are already OK by giving the government unnecessary power to harass those who they feel don't meet up. IIRC there was a communist leader who said something to the effect of *Find me the man and I'll find the crime*?
You can make some things illegal and punish those who break the law but you cannot legislate behavior. Just how do you propose to enforce it any way? Lock people up and use mind control drugs? 1984 anyone?
One day one neighborhood girl was watching me make mashed potatoes, you know, boiling them in a pot on the stove. In all innocence she looks at me and says *Why don't you make them the normal way; in the microwave?" It's so hard to keep a straight face sometimes.
Canning jams is the best. My kids won't eat store made stuff because it's too sweet. I found a pectin that allows you to make low sugar high volume batches of jam. It's Pomona's Universal Pectin. I make a 12 cup batch of fruit with 3 C sugar and it sets well. Pomona's can be got online. You have to buy a fair sized amount of it but it keeps and per batch is cheaper than the store stuff, plus you're saving on sugar and making lots of little batches. I can make about 28 pints (four cannerlaods in 4 batches and it takes less than a day.
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