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America angry over "hypocrites" remark [Bolton got into it with British UN official.]
Guardian Newspapers Limited by way of The Hindu ^ | 09JUN06 | Oliver Burkeman

Posted on 06/09/2006 12:04:26 AM PDT by familyop

Edited on 06/09/2006 10:00:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

New York: Deputy Secretary-General of the U.N. was on Wednesday night accused of making ``a very, very grave mistake'' after calling the Bush administration hypocrites who were feeding a right-wing anti-U.N. frenzy in middle America.

Washington's Ambassador to the U.N. responded with undisguised fury to a speech by Mark Malloch Brown, the Deputy Secretary-General, in which he accused Washington of using the international body ``almost by stealth as a diplomatic tool'' while failing to defend it at home.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambassador; antiamerican; bluehelmetpos; bolton; briton; brown; deputy; fox; foxnews; general; hrc; humanrightscouncil; icc; johnbolton; limbaugh; malloch; mark; markbrown; markmallochbrown; markmbrown; nations; rushlimbaugh; secretary; un; unhrc; united
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To: familyop
Ooo. Maybe the petulant Leftist swine will save the world without the evil United States.

Or maybe the entire thing is a slush fund for totalitarian nutjobs the world over, anyway.

21 posted on 06/09/2006 2:16:30 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: familyop
And yes, I agree that most popular opinion media are behind most of the anti-western sentiment we're seeing.

"Popular opinion media," or the Whore of Babylon, as I like to call it, is a major CAUSE. They are not "behind" it. They are right up front with it. It is not that media is for one side or the other. It is what they can do to keep people divided against themselves. THAT is what makes news.

The real sad story is that for those who take in the Whore are bound to catch an STD (Sensually Transmitted Disease). It spreads among the viewers like an AIDS virus. Worse yet, are those who use the media to legitimize a certain world view, a perspective, or situation....mostly based on a 15 second soundbite.

The Whore may be one problem, but the harlots who lay down for her is what gives her her power.

Boycott mainstream media.

Arrowhead>>>---MSM-->

22 posted on 06/09/2006 2:20:57 AM PDT by Arrowhead
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To: Arrowhead

What about the harlots who pay for the advertising and dictate the opinions? For about a decade, I worked quite a few office contracts for corporations that pay for the advertising. Before that, I attended some English classes with relatives (now journalists) of some of the corporate bosses. They are far worse than what they publicly reveal through the popular, so-called "news" media that they pay.


23 posted on 06/09/2006 2:35:31 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or your with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop

Free speech in the US is so inconvenient. The world would be better off if all the EU smartypants and the UN ran everything.


24 posted on 06/09/2006 2:54:30 AM PDT by hershey
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To: familyop

The UN is a bunch of third world thugs. Period.


25 posted on 06/09/2006 2:57:11 AM PDT by hershey
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To: familyop
What about the harlots who pay for the advertising and dictate the opinions?

Agreed! In content anyway. But, not in name. They are not the harlots. They are the Pimps. ;^)

Arrowhead>>>---Pimps-->

26 posted on 06/09/2006 3:03:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead
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To: Arrowhead

That's a good point.


27 posted on 06/09/2006 3:07:22 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or your with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop
Mark Malloch Brown: ``You will lose the U.N. one way or another.''

I submit that "one way or another" is to continue business as ususal at the U.N.

29 posted on 06/09/2006 3:32:39 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: familyop
``Much of the public discourse that reaches the U.S. heartland has been largely abandoned to its loudest detractors, such as Rush Limbaugh and Fox News,'' Mr. Malloch Brown said in a speech in New York on Tuesday.

Let it be known that the discourse that I feel towards the UN has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh or Fox News - the agency is beyond useless, and is simply a front used by thieves to steal money away from the US taxpayer.

Abolish it.

30 posted on 06/09/2006 3:40:35 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: hsalaw

Harare, Zimbabwe seems t0 be a perfect l0cati0n f0r the UN t0 me.


31 posted on 06/09/2006 3:42:45 AM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Necronomicon
...This thread smells of geopolitic dilettantism to say the least... Today, you work togheter where agreements may be reached, and you forget about the rest, since nobody is 100% autonomous anymore.

I don't know what you're smokin' but I don't want any. To think that the UN has had a positive effect on international relations is naive at best. It is no more useful than was the league of nations.

32 posted on 06/09/2006 3:50:13 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: Necronomicon
I'm not sure it is funny how people mix two different things. The UN seems like a moribund organization showing it's decay in many and varying ways.

Bilateral agreements, and so on are important a forum for such international agreements is to be welcomed. But America was vilified for not signing up to Kyoto - while many who did were just posturing.

The nations of this world are not united - real politik tells us that.
33 posted on 06/09/2006 3:53:14 AM PDT by vimto ("I've seen the future of Islam, Guess what? We won!")
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To: Rapscallion

"Mr. Bush cannot articulate complex concepts off the cuff"

I beg to differ! "Off the cuff", IMO, is when the President is at his best! Second best is when he reads from notes. He apparently has a history of dyslexia, and I think the teleprompter format is his downfall.


34 posted on 06/09/2006 3:57:22 AM PDT by Ike (My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
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To: familyop

My first impression of Bolton was that he was a goofy looking putz with a 'carpet that doesn't match the drapes' cookie duster moustache, but after reading some of his co-workers comments I thought he might actually be the right man for the job.

Now I KNOW he is the right man for the job.

Way to go JB! Sticking up for hard working middle America.

..and why is this UK fag so upset by what Rush or Fox News has to say about the UN? Annan is a pathetic failure as head of the UN and should have stepped down long ago.


35 posted on 06/09/2006 4:01:45 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: Necronomicon

I don't think you're going to fit in here.


36 posted on 06/09/2006 4:10:28 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: taxesareforever

...or Useless Nattering.


37 posted on 06/09/2006 4:13:29 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Necronomicon
The other thing is that like it or not, the UN isn't an extension of the US administration. Instead, it represents almost all nations on the planet. Therefore, the US voice is diluted in the middle of the diverging interests of everyone else.

You have a gift for stating the obvious. The General Assembly is made up of a large number of tin-pot dictatorships whose people didn't elect their representatives in the first place. The Security Council is stymied by France, Russia and China.

No one is saying we are going it alone, simply that US interests are no longer served by the UN, which is not just a little bit corrupt but corrupt from the head (Kofi and Kojo Annan) to the toe (UN peacekeepers in Rwanda). We can accomplish a lot more through bilateral efforts and NATO.

The UN has outlived its usefulness.

38 posted on 06/09/2006 4:18:38 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Disagree. We've had them for 60 years. Now let's have the UN in Addis Ababa for the next 60. We may take them back after that, we'll see.

Costs would be considerably lower in Addis and it would be a real boost to the Ethiopian economy to have all those high-living UN diplomats spending tax free money.


39 posted on 06/09/2006 4:23:00 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: familyop
Depending on the U.N. while tolerating ``too much unchecked U.N.-bashing and stereotyping'' was ``simply not sustainable,'' he said.

They don't seem to understand that here in America, free speech isn't "tolerated", it is protected and cherished. I would hazard a guess that, if the U.N. were to have its way, that would all end.
40 posted on 06/09/2006 4:26:47 AM PDT by deaconjim
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