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To: andy58-in-nh
Good. No "discrimination" should be enshrined in the Constitution.

Let the states ban it individually and leave it alone on a national level.

10 posted on 06/07/2006 8:46:18 AM PDT by zarf (John Edwards is the most annoying person in America.)
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To: zarf
"Let the states ban it individually and leave it alone on a national level"

Agreed, this was a band-aid fix for activist judges. Instead of fixing the problem all it'd do is turn the constitution into a dictionary.
18 posted on 06/07/2006 8:51:32 AM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: zarf
Good. No "discrimination" should be enshrined in the Constitution.

How do you come to the conclusion that recognizing what is already obvious is discrimination?

29 posted on 06/07/2006 8:57:10 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: zarf

Let the states ban it individually and leave it alone on a national level.

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What was your opinion of the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v Texas? I did not hear people saying that what was law in Texas should stay (or be overturned) in Texas. That was the Supreme Court ruling that has taken the issue of so-called same sex marriage away from the states' jurisdictions.


43 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: zarf
What is discriminatory about preventing judges, especially Federal judges, from changing the plain meaning of words by fiat? Marriage by its nature is dependent on sexual complementarity. If it is not, then all traditional state marriage laws would, by definition be "discriminatory", and subject to litigation and judicial remedy.

With the volume of "same-sex" marriage litigation currently being pursued by gay groups, the ACLU, and others, I seriously doubt that the states could long resist the federal judiciary if it imposes "same-sex" marriage by decree.

47 posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: zarf
outlawing gay marriage is enshrining "discrimination" into the constitution..

it's simply stating that two mentally ill people shouldn't have the ability to dismantle western society to fulfill their sick perverts dementia's.
125 posted on 06/07/2006 9:53:42 AM PDT by conservative physics
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To: zarf; All

You have missed the ENTIRE point of this debate IMHO.

The COURTS have forced the issue to Federal Level NOT the PEOPLE. WE NEED a U.S. Constitutional ammendment defining marriage as a union of ONE man and ONE woman.. the STATES may choose to create whatever garbage they want "OTHER THAN MARRIAGE".... the problem is that CONGRESS has punted the issue back to the courts for litigation.. Homosexual activist have prevailed today, and now they can continue to push their agenda in the federal courts.... a SAD DAY for America indeed.

David


128 posted on 06/07/2006 9:57:57 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: zarf

Judges won't let them do that. If voters in the states pass laws and restrictions on this abomination, the courts immediately overturn the balloting. Why do you think they were doing it in the first place.


160 posted on 06/07/2006 10:22:11 AM PDT by Luke21 (Democrats hate us, our heritage, and our religion. They think we belong in cages. Never forget.)
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To: zarf

Where do you get the discrimination point? A gay man can marry a woman and a gay woman can marry a man. There is no discrimination here unless you've bought into the liberal talking points!


190 posted on 06/07/2006 11:04:46 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: zarf

Good. No "discrimination" should be enshrined in the Constitution.

Let the states ban it individually and leave it alone on a national level.



The problem is that the US Constitution Article IV Sec.1 says:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

This means that any judge at the Federal level could overturn state laws banning the recognition of gay marriage if they were legally contracted in another state. (The same principle applies to real marriages, which is why you can get married in one state, move to another state, and your new state will continue to recognize your marriage). Something needs to be done to prevent this from happening before the courts force it. At minimum something should be done to prevent the states that don't support this from being forced to recognize it via the the full faith and credit clause.


271 posted on 06/07/2006 5:58:16 PM PDT by old republic
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To: zarf
No "discrimination" should be enshrined in the Constitution.

It is not discrimination. Any homosexual can marry one person of the opposite sex like anybody else...

278 posted on 06/07/2006 7:17:03 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: zarf
No "discrimination" should be enshrined in the Constitution.

Ageed! Thank you!

292 posted on 06/08/2006 12:39:07 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (The earth is an endowment. We should take care to spend the interest, not the principle)
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