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1 posted on 06/07/2006 7:46:25 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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In a parking lot of the Border Patrol headquarters three miles from the dividing line with Mexico, President Bush on Tuesday accused his opponents in the immigration battle of stirring up fear with false claims about amnesty.

Sensenbrenner said again for the 100th time a few days ago he's not signing off on any "path to citizenship". He must be one of those back in Washington Bush was referring to.

2 posted on 06/07/2006 7:47:14 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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"Look, if you're one of these types of people that basically say, you know, throw them out, then you just use the word 'amnesty,' just toss it around. In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

He has a Harvard/Yale education, yet this guy can barely form a complete sentence.

3 posted on 06/07/2006 7:51:52 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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Nope. Dubya just does not get it. We have a path to citizenship now and millions of people have gone through the difficult, expensive, process. They start the process from their home countries by applying to the American consulate.


5 posted on 06/07/2006 7:52:21 AM PDT by Mogollon
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Let's see, he wants to give them immunity from the existing laws, money they don't deserve, a path to citizenship without going through the regular channels and let them jump ahead of people who are trying to become legal residents and citizens by following our laws and he says this isn't amnesty. How stupid does he think we are? Pretty damn stupid from the looks of it.


7 posted on 06/07/2006 8:00:35 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amensty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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"In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

To call the Senate bill simply 'amnesty' can be misleading. It is not FULL amnesty. However, it is PARTIAL amnesty. To say it's not amnesty at all is simply a lie. I don't think it's possible to state this too strongly. There will be some kind of amnesty. (There's not enough political support for even a reasonable application of current law on illegal immigration, i.e., no amnesty at all.) It won't be FULL amnesty. The real question is what degree of amnesty.

8 posted on 06/07/2006 8:03:08 AM PDT by nosofar
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Bush stepped up his criticism of lawmakers back in Washington balking at his call to create a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who have lived in the country for years.

When 70% of this country realizes that we need to take steps to control illegal immigration, maybe Bush should remember he is the President for only all LEGAL Americans and stop this nonsense.

10 posted on 06/07/2006 8:06:50 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (You go to Heaven for the climate; Hell for the company and conversation.)
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"Look, if you're one of these types of people that basically say, you know, throw them out, then you just use the word 'amnesty,' just toss it around," Bush said. "In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

But, then again, maybe people are calling it amnesty because that is what it is.

And illegal aliens already have a path to citizenship. They can apply just like anyone else. What the President and Democrats in the Senate are trying to pass is a PRIVILEGED path to citizenship which rewards criminals simply because they've violated our borders already and have been able to elude law enforcement authorities long enough to qualify.

Toss that around, Mr. President.

11 posted on 06/07/2006 8:07:07 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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"Look, if you're one of these types of people that basically say, you know, throw them out, then you just use the word 'amnesty,' just toss it around," Bush said. "In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.'

No - I don't say toss them out.

I say take away the job opportunities by putting the screws to those that hire illegals. I say take away all government benefits such as food stamps, welfare, free medical care, waiver of out-of-state tuition, etc. I say if we quit making it easy and profitable for them to stay they will leave of their own accord.

If I break into a house and I am caught, I do not get to keep the property I have taken unlawfully. The property will be taken away from me.

If I commit bank fraud and I am caught, I do not get to keep the money I have obtained unlawfully. The money will be taken away from me.

If I commit tax fraud and I am caught I do not get to keep the money I retained by fraud. This will also be taken away from me.

If I steal someones identity and get caught, I do not get to keep the forged drivers license, birth certificate, and checks. These are taken away because they do not belong to me, even though I may have paid to have them forged.

If an alien enters this country unlawfully, or illegally stays after entering lawfully, then they are an illegal alien. They should not get to keep their residency here in this country (which was obtained illegally). Their residency should be taken away from them.

If they DO get to keep their residency here, or get some sort of advantage over those who have waited in line, then this is amnesty. Amnesty by any other name is STILL amnesty.

The concept is simple, but some pretend not to understand.

Sadly, it reminds me of Clintoon arguing over the definition of the word "is".

15 posted on 06/07/2006 8:12:24 AM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration...............................Cut the KRAP (Kare Rove Amnesty Plan).)
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"In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

No Mr. President, I get scared when you continue to propose amnesty. Please reconsider your position.

17 posted on 06/07/2006 8:17:28 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Officer: I clocked you travelling at 88 mph in a 65 mph zone. We don't tolerate such flagrant violations of the law in the Great State of XY.

Motorist_1: Sorry officer, but I'm not from here. I was just violating the limits that the residents of XY are no longer willing to violate.

Officer: How long have you been doing this?

Motorist_1: About 6 months.

Officer: Enjoy your visit in XY and speed no more.


Officer: I clocked you travelling at 94 mph in a 65 mph zone. We don't tolerate such flagrant violations of the law in the Great State of XY.

Motorist_2: Sorry officer, but I'm not from here. I was just violating the limits that the residents of XY are no longer willing to violate.

Officer: How long have you been doing this?

Motorist_2: About 5 years.

Officer: Can you prove it?

Motorist_2: Yes, I have a receipt for the purchase of my fake drivers license in April of 2001.

Officer: Very well, enjoy your visit in XY. Put this bumper sticker on your car and you will be free to continue at 94 mph and not get pulled over.


19 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:04 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Happy to perform my own labor, pay more for food, pay less in taxes, and vote for a third party.)
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He supports ... a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who have spent years in the U.S., with a requirement that they pay fines and back taxes and show a proficiency in English.

Oh, an amnesty.

20 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:04 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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I'm a big fan of GW, but I have a very different view in this case.

Plain and simple, you should never reward someone for breaking the law.

These people broke the law and should get no special treatment.

If they want to become citizens of the United States then they should go back to their home country and go through the proper channels to do it legally.

Calling amnesty a "guest worker program" is just like putting ketchup on a turd. It's still a turd. And realize that we already have a guest worker program in place. That's how legal immigrants get their green card.

Secure the border
Make it not economically feasible for a business to hire an illegal
Enforce the laws on the books.

Not rocket science.


21 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:15 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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I like the idea where they have to go back to Mexico and get in line for citizenship, but i think it's a good idea they get a chance to stay here without much aggravation as guest workers.

Also, why is nobody proposing a Constitutional amendment to end automatic citizenship for children born to those here illegally?

22 posted on 06/07/2006 8:22:34 AM PDT by Tribune7
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Why MeCain, Kennedy and The President are forcing this "Comprehensive" plan on American citizens is not what we want and are very clear on that.

The vast majority of American of both parties what the same thing. Homeland Security First!

Secure and control our borders so Islamoterrorist can't smuggle a WMD into our country and kill thousands of Americans.

Homeland Security & Immigration Reform should be dealt with separately and not bundled together in an politicized "Amnesty For Votes" boondoggle on the American people.

24 posted on 06/07/2006 8:25:36 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Cuellar said that generally, he hears support from his constituents for a requirement that new immigrants learn English.

"¿Como estas?" Bush greeted patrons at Cotulla's,

"Howdy," Perry said,

Perry got it right.

26 posted on 06/07/2006 8:26:08 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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[ "There's no question this is a difficult issue for some in Washington, D.C., but my job is to continue calling people to account," Bush said. ]

How about calling employers who have employed multi millions of illegal aliens to count.. Duuuugh.. Thats millions with an "M", George.. By the way, wouldn't hurt to call Property Managers who Rent, and Real Estate Brokers/Agents who sell to them, to count too..

Until that happens George WERE CALLING ((YOU)) TO COUNT..
And some of the OTHER RINOs too..

30 posted on 06/07/2006 8:29:34 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Just as with Meirs, "nobody else wants the job(s) seems to be a central piece in the Administration's domestic policy for the second term. Pretty pathetic to this Conservative.
32 posted on 06/07/2006 8:34:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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"There's no question this is a difficult issue for some in Washington, D.C., but my job is to continue calling people to account," Bush said.

I guess this means if somebody breaks in to my house in the middle of the night, they should automatically become part of my family?

38 posted on 06/07/2006 8:43:10 AM PDT by Gritty (Illegals work for less because they don't pay taxes and their employers don't obey laws-Ann Coulter)
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LAREDO - In a parking lot of the Border Patrol headquarters three miles from the dividing line with Mexico, President Bush on Tuesday accused his opponents in the immigration battle of stirring up fear with false claims about amnesty.

"Look, if you're one of these types of people that basically say, you know, throw them out, then you just use the word 'amnesty,' just toss it around," Bush said. "In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

Once again the President and RNC are attacking Conservatives with nonsense like the President's remarks of yesterday. Talk about mud-slinging at your own base! Pathetic!

39 posted on 06/07/2006 8:44:25 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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My e-mail to the White House after reading this article:

Mr. President,

I vehemently object to your characterization of those who oppose your plan of de facto amnesty as simply using scare tactics. You are simply digging your hole deeper. Your Republican constituency is not as stupid and the Democrats’ constituency. Your plan runs counter to fundamental principles of our nation: that we are a nation that respects the rule of law. However, it is becoming to appear that the citizens respect the law but our Government does not – and that applies to you, Congress and the judicial branch as well. Disgusting!

Those who callously ignore our laws to come here do not respect our laws, and they do not understand the importance of doing so. I find it unreasonable to believe that those who disrespected our law and willfully disobeyed would have a miraculous change of heart and somehow suddenly become trustworthy, honest and dependable citizens who would pledge uphold our laws. What good would their pledge be even if they made such a pledge? If you really believe we can depend on these people to be good citizens, you must be smoking some of the same stuff Bill Clinton smoked, and you must be ignoring the facts of local law enforcement blotters (and much of their criminal activity has been overlooked at the behest of your federal government). Unfortunately, I don’t think you really believe it. I believe you are being dishonest with, and unfair to, the honest, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens of this country. You are disrespecting those of us who voted for you and put you in office twice. In that regard, your position on immigration is disgraceful.

Your plan for de facto amnesty undermines important fundamental values and concepts that are essential to maintaining the fabric and strength of our nation. I don’t really think you understand the seething anger that the public harbors over this issue. The Republican Party will be a non-factor in national politics for the next thirty years if you get your way on this issue.


40 posted on 06/07/2006 8:44:46 AM PDT by RatRipper
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