Posted on 06/07/2006 5:16:01 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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One would think that after some of the recent MSM missteps that we would all wait for all of the facts, but it's clear some haven't yet learned that lesson.
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Denials of fabricated incidents would be more easily debunked and denied if the US hadn't lost an awful lot of face via Guantanamo and Abu Gharib. Although each is completely justifiable on their own terms, the net affect on the image of America has been serious and significant.
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Regardless of how the rest of the world sees it, Americans should support our troops. Guantanomo and Abu Ghraib have nothing to do with that issue.
Bah-and the MSM and Dhimmicrats (redundant, I know) give the terrorist scumbags the benefit of the doubt. We don't know what happened in Haditha, but I am willing to give American Servicemen the benefit of the doubt every time-not so our treasonous, liberal "elites".
You're absolutely correct. Anyone got a ping list?
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If someone does, please add me.
With regard to this Haditha thing I smell set up from the get go. Our Marines are a dedicated and highly trained fighting force. I very much doubt that they would knowingly masacre innocents. The islamopignazis on the other hand, as previously documented, will use children as pawns in their game in order to fabricate a masacre.
Quite frankly I don't believe one word of this supposed masacre B.S. but even if it were true I'd say hey some bad apples, move on and gee we're only about 2,975 innocents behind in the ledger.
Let's not only "be adults," but let us at the very least read up on what we do know. Freeper Sam Hill has uncovered a lot of information that should make reasonable people question the official story the media is handing around.
The only witnesses were terrorists and/or terrorist sympathizers. The doctor who performed the "autopsies" hates the west in general, the US in particular, and has previously accused us of genocide. The "reporter" turns out to have been held on terrorist charges in the past, due to "suspicious" photos in his camera (unspecified--so, beheadings, I wonder?). Add to this that the MSM reporters pushing this story were the very ones who strongly pushed the "wedding party massacre" story that also turned out to be false.
Worse, some of the news organizations published, as proof of the "atrocity," photos of the "massacre" that were taken of an incident where the victims had been gunned down in a stadium by the terrorists.
Now consider, please, the simple fact that to date, no independent autopsies have been performed. The last I heard, the families were refusing to allow the bodies to be exhumed for such tests.
Before you suggest WE are jumping to conclusions, I suggest YOU read up on this. Most of us are basing our conclusions on facts of which you are apparently unaware.
The only time the media seems to call the terrorists what they are is when one of "their own" is kidnapped, wounded, or killed by them.
Thank you. We don't know yet of the reports were falsified. We only know that the terrorist witnesses claim something else happened.
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If the net effect of the American "image" is significant and serious, then this is the fault of the American people for not understanding the full implications of what we're up against. We're not fighting a bunch of civilized, cultured gentlemen here. We're fighting base creatures who don't care who they kill or how, and for the most part, I believe, kill because they like to see pain and death.
We are going to have to approach this war differently if we plan on winning. The only thing these terrorists understand is brute force--to them, anything less is a sign of weakness, and they utterly despise weakness. (Just read what Osama said in his "declaration of war" when Clinton was president.)
We simply cannot expect our troops to be able to win this war if they must carry a gun in one hand and an etiquette book in another. Let the troops do what they must to win this war, and worry about "image" later.
Funny how this came up in this case--what the supposed wrong was at Gitmo was another press-contrived story that was proven completely false: the so-called flushing of the Quran. Never happened, but I do see that some here have completely missed that point.
The media should be shot but in real life I haven't heard this as being in the average person's daily concerns so I don't think they are getting the outrage they want.
Don't flame me for this. I don't condone My Lai but I know a man who was there, more than once. They were dropping humanitarian supplies because the people in the village were starving. They would land in the helicoptor, offload the supplies and then when they started to fly off the people would come out and try to shoot them out of the sky as they took off. I'm not making any excuses but it isn't like the people of My Lai were innocent. The Vietnamese were famous for hiding behind children and also rigging children with "suicide bombs".
Pure propaganda.
LOL, the "image" of the United States of America will always "suffer" in the world, its human nature to resent those who have to constantly take care of your security and financial health, when you are unable to fend for yourself.
Much like a teen's resentment of their parents.
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