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'Muppet planes' on drawing board (Enviro-friendly aircraft get look from Boeing)
Arizona Daily Star - Seattle Times ^
| Dominic Gates
Posted on 06/06/2006 7:13:58 PM PDT by SandRat
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:14:02 PM PDT
by
SandRat
To: SandRat
Just reusing designs that have been around a long time.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:20:15 PM PDT
by
dalereed
To: dalereed
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:25:58 PM PDT
by
Luker
To: dalereed
Wel then, we might as well close the patent office because everything that could possibily be invented has already been invented.............. ;o)
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:26:14 PM PDT
by
SW6906
(5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
To: namsman
"Kermit Kruiser"? Is he back in PD now? I thought he went to Field Service.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:27:28 PM PDT
by
SW6906
(5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
To: Paleo Conservative
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:28:00 PM PDT
by
SW6906
(5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
To: SandRat; All
i'll be so glad when this "extraodinary popular delusion" -- the cult of environmentalism -- has passed and sanity has returned.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:28:10 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
("....and the sun is eclipsed by the moon!" -- (Pink Floyd). But not for long!)
To: SandRat; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...
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To: dalereed
Boeing discovers the folding wing. Grumman invented it for the Navy in the 1930s.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:29:42 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Burn the UN flag publicly.)
To: SandRat
Kermit Kruiser looks like the Sonic Cruiser redone..
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:29:59 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
("Oh No! Zombies!" Actually, they aren't. They just haven't had their coffee yet.)
To: the invisib1e hand
This "extraodinary popular delusion" Funny how people are opposed to any kind of conservation, but content to send money to our Arab "friends" to buy oil.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:32:25 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: SandRat
What?!?!?
No "Ratso Rizzo Rider"?
How about the Lew Zeland Flying Fish?
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:32:41 PM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, now back at K-Bay! Ooorah!!!)
To: SandRat
Maybe they should have looked to the X-Men for inspiration instead of muppets.
To: Paleo Conservative
The Fozzie has a tremendous wetted area in its tail, but still most of the tail would be blanketed by the fuselage at high angle of attacks.
The Kermit cruizer has a canard to screw up the air, so the main wing will have higher drag at cruise. It also can, at high pitchup rates, stall both canard and main wing.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:33:30 PM PDT
by
donmeaker
(Burn the UN flag publicly.)
To: SandRat; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson
Then there's the "Fozzie." ![](http://www.whysanity.net/muppets/mimages/moving.gif)
Kermit: "Bear left."
Fozzie: "Right, frog."
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:34:49 PM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(Nifty little exchange from The Muppet Movie)
To: SandRat
* "Fozzie": Ultra-low fuel burn. The airplane is designed to cruise at a much reduced speed 500 mph rather than the typical 600-plus mph of current jets. That would add an hour to the typical transcontinental flight. If they made the plane more comfortable then they might have a winner.
Slightly more space for the same ticket price as the faster planes and they would sell seats.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:40:29 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(The bottom 60% does 40% of the work, the top 40% does 60% of the work. Just who are the "workers"?)
To: SandRat
Automobiles, trucks, construction equipment, stationary power generators and motorcycles are all going to be required to have pollution controls within the next 5 years. Why are aircraft exempt?
The fact of the matter is your typical jetliner emits more smog-producing pollutants in one minute of operation that 1,000 modern automobiles will emit in a year. And yet we are beating our brains out making LEVs and ULEVs and SULEVs, while jet aircraft fly overhead, without a care.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:42:45 PM PDT
by
jebeier
(RICE '08)
To: SW6906
Field Service got outsourced to China so Kermit was surplused.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:44:57 PM PDT
by
phantomworker
(And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, will keep your hearts and your minds...)
To: SandRat
The Problem with Fozzie, the UDF is what I will call the B-17 problem.
It sounds like a B-17 when it flies over.
That may have been acceptable in 1944, but in 2006, no way.
UDF's are deader than than dead. They looked so good on paper....
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:49:30 PM PDT
by
UNGN
(I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
To: Doe Eyes
Funny how people are opposed to any kind of conservation, but content to send money to our Arab "friends" to buy oil.Me? Are you talking about me?
What wanton presumption you exercise to make such a remark! How would you know what I'm "content" to do?
I'm opposed to the Cult of Environmentalism. I am not opposed to sound economic practice. In fact, it is my profession.
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posted on
06/06/2006 7:55:16 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
("....and the sun is eclipsed by the moon!" -- (Pink Floyd). But not for long!)
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